Hello all. I am new to this forum. I have been lurking since a couple of years, but now I feel the need of sharing my story with you. I hope that writing it down and possibly getting some advice or at least having the feeling that someone is listening to me, helps me process my emotions. We are in our forties. We have been in the hotwife-cuckold since a few years. It all started when I pushed her to try it. She had a BF who expanded her boundaries, helping her become the slut I fantasized her to be. It was a rollercoaster, which I mostly enjoyed, although I have had also some tough times to deal with it. But now, we are entering a new territory, which I don't know how to handle. We live in Spain and although the country is now emerging out of the economic crisis, the last remnants have hit. I had to accept a salary reduction and my wife lost her job. She has been searching for a new job, but without success. Oh, she found some opportunities, but with very bad schedules and ridiculously low salary. We could live with my salary alone, but over time, my wife has become more independent and doesn't like she is not making any contribution. Through her former lover, she found an opportunity as a personal assistant at a small firm. The salary was incredibly good, although it came with conditions... She is supposed to be sexually available to her boss. She will still have to work like a normal professional and she is very good at what she does, but sex is a required add-on. She discussed this openly before she was hired and it is even written down in a private recruitment contract. Now, we don't really need this extra money. She has accepted the job because she doesn't want to feel being maintained while she is sitting back and also because it is kind of a challenge for her. She wants to expand her limits and test if she can cope with it. I am partially excited, partially worried. Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 She had been working in the company for little over a month and her boss hadn't made any move so far. He had been correct all the time and she had been doing her job as a normal secretary. That was until last week. Her boss wanted her to accompany him to a business trip and asked her to invest the day before and after the customer meeting, although they were bank holidays. It was clear that the time had come for her to fulfill the agreement and become his slut-secretary. He booked an expensive hotel. The first night prior to the customer meeting, nothing happened and he was just professional. But after the meeting with the customer, when they got back to the hotel, he surprised her with an expensive spa treatment he had booked for her. When she got back to her room, she found a beautiful bouquet of roses on her bad. They had dinner at the hotel's restaurant. My wife Gem said that they he was the perfect gentleman and wasn't even touching the topic. She said she believed that although they already had a written agreement, he didn't want to press her. She felt like he wanted it to be fully her choice. So when they went back to the room, which were on the same floor, she said she felt that she had to take the initiative. She said that he was being very gentle with her and she felt that he had done enough merits to deserve it. After all, it's what she had willingly agreed to do anyway: become his slut at work (and get a bigger salary in return). She wanted to shut off or dim the lights, but he insisted on bright illumination. I believe she didn't want to see him and wanted to have the chance of thinking it was another man. She said that the sex was ok, but that she felt very strange sleeping in the same bed with him and waking up with his arms surrounding her. She has done this before with her lovers, but with her boss, this was just different. Of course, he fucked her again in the morning. The next day, he had booked another spa treatment, this time for both as a couple. The treatment included access to the pool area, but she hadn't packed any swim suit. Luckily her boss had foreseen it and he had bought her a sexy swim suit. The hotel has some suites in the spa area, where couples can relax after the treatment and that's where they had sex for the third time. I don't know what to think and how to feel about it. It is clear that she is doing this partially for money and I don't want her to prostitute herself. But also, I know that it is not only for the money, there is something dark inside her, which is driving her to do this. And I have to confess, I love this dark side of hers, but at the same time it frightens me. Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:37 pm jamorgan66 wrote: I think it could be erotic, your wife being paid for sex. I wish I could rent-a-wife ! Possibly you'll have to wait and see how this develops and how honest your communication is. Yes, but being paid for sex just feels... wrong! But encouraging your wife to fuck other men, feels just as wrong I guess, but it isn't. Is it just a question of the point of view? Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:44 pm lonecuck wrote: Hey, enjoy the ride. I'm going to guess your marriage won't be threatened by her boss. I think she's exploring something important for her, and if you get off on having a slur wife you are in a perfect position. Would you rather you wife was unemployed and fucking a lover while you work? Thanks for the post! No, I don't think my marriage is or will be in danger because of her boss. For once, we have a strong bond and have been through more threatening things, which just made us become more intimate. Also, her boss is sixty something but he looks older, while my wife is in her forties and looks younger. They really don't make a good couple, regardless of how much money he has (well, I shouldn't say this so loud, there is a recent notorious example that could prove me wrong, if you know to who I am referring to). I guess you are right, better to fuck him and make some money out of it than to fuck a poor lover while I have to double shifts to maintain the family. But still, I am concerned about her. I know she doesn't feel physically attracted to him, there is no sexual excitement in her, but she still does it. I want her to be happy and not to have to do these kinds of things (which we really don't need). I just don't get it why she is doing it. Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:36 pm She has had lovers before who I really disliked. Attractive and successful men who were arrogant pigs, at least to me. I hated and I loved it at the same time, as it spurred my cuckold angst to new heights. But the image of her boss touching my wife... I really hate it. He is not even good looking and there seems to be only one reason why she is doing it. Although, I am not sure, because I know it is not just for the money (we could do well without it). It seems like a challenge for her, as if she wanted to prove herself that she is in total control of her sexuality and that she can do it. Or maybe she really gets off by the idea of being a "whore". I am struggling with it. Not because I don't accept it, which I do, but because I feel like I am failing to protect her. When she came back from the business trip, I felt that I had to be like a tortoise shell: soft in the inside to comfort her and hard on the outside to protect her. Overtime, since she developed into a full hotwife, she has become very assertive with regards to sex. It is her decision of whoever she fucks, when and how. I have nothing to say about it. I mostly enjoy it. But sometimes, like this time, I feel I am failing her. She thinks she will be in control, but like radio4ron said, she probably won't be, as time passes. But then, maybe that's the thrill for her. Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:03 am wmraim wrote: For me the link is that the set up came from her former lover. He would know her sexual prowess. The boss obviously contracted this without kicking the tires but trusted the word of his friend. This is way better than getting married in the old day when both were virgins. The boss has now road tested the deal. He has the power to terminate at his whim. I thought radio4ron's comments are very pertinent. Your wife "become powerless." She wears the pants at home but is submissive at work. Time will tell how it wears on her. Is she obligated to serve clients? The contract basically says that she is his personal assistant, which includes the duty of satisfying HIM sexually. I don't think that this includes serving other people, including clients. Or at least, I hope so. By the way, although it could be a hot fantasy, I think it is a highly unrealistic scenario. After all, business is business. Do you think he would find a customer that would accept a deal if he included her sexual services? The client could just go to a plain prostitute instead. I see it difficult to bring up on a negotiation table, don't you think? (Damn, my heart is accelerating by this thought. I really hope it doesn't get that far). Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:24 am lonecuck wrote: It's ironic to me that one could dream and wish for years for such a situation and then when it appears find it isn't at all as enjoyable as you'd envisioned. It's the same kind of contradictory emotions we go through when we fully realize that our wives are with another man and that often times, they are more than just a sex toy: they kiss, the giggle, they go out together... I guess I am just going through a different style of cuckold angst now. I still can't get the picture out of my head of when they were back to their rooms after dinner, located on the same floor. She was wearing a beautiful, long, red see-through dress a former lover had bought her. It is rather sensual and elegant than slutty. (my wife has posted a similar dress on her tumblr account, which you will find below in my signature). She was wearing a nice, red bra underneath, but no panties. Her boss hadn't made any move yet and she felt in obligation to take the first step. His room was first on the floor and when they were close to it, she took his hand, stepped in front of him, looked him in the eyes and kissed him deeply. It was kind of as she was surrendering to him. I don't know why the image of the kiss is having a bigger impact on me than what came afterwards. Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:07 pm DavaoMike wrote: As an attorney in the US, I'm amazed that such a "contract" would exist. Of course, I'm not familiar with the law of Spain, but in the US, such a contract would amount to an agreement for prostitution, which would be unenforceable, and probably serve as the basis for a sexual harassment lawsuit. In the US you are very strict or even harsh with prostitution... but yet it still exists. In Spain we aren't much wiser as it is neither legal nor illegal. Funny, I read a few months ago in the newspapers a similar case than the one of my wife. A woman filed a lawsuit against her boss because of alleged sexual harassment. You can find the article if you google with the following search string, although it is in Spanish of course (but you could use a translator): favor sexual jefe site:libertaddigital.com The boss won it because he was able to prove that she had explicitly accepted to give him sexual favors when she was hired. It was even in her contract! Of course, it was a scandal and I guess that if she appeals, she will win. Regardless of what the first judge dictated, these kinds of clauses are for sure invalid. But that's not the case here: my wife has no intention of filing a lawsuit. This is just a private contract between both, just to make the agreement official (and I guess also for her boss to protect himself to a certain degree in case she changes her mind, like this other woman). Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:25 pm wmraim wrote: There are many ways to close a deal, doesn't have to be an outright sexual favor but if she were to be without underwear, and sort of showing off, while a deal was being negotiated, it may lubricate the atmosphere. I asked my wife if she thinks that this was his purpose when he unbuttoned her blouse (she was wearing a bra) just before the meeting with the customer started. She responded with a smile and asked me "What do you think?". I wasn't able to respond. wmraim wrote: Seems to me you kinda of like her having sex with other men. Now she has a sugar daddy. Why not enjoy it? I don't know. I am not totally against it. I am just not totally for it. Why? Because I love it when she does it out of lust, but it feels wrong when she (partially) does it for money. I have been thinking about this, reading about what drives cuckolds. Many sources say that a cuckold husband is a provider husband. His primary role is providing security (financial, emotional, etc.) to the hotwife and he accepts that he is a secondary provider of sex. A sugar daddy competes not only in the sexual area, in which the cuckold (me) has already accepted "defeat", but now he threatens to compete also in the aspect of a provider, at least the financial part. This seems to leave me to provide only the emotional part. It is of course the most important part, but somehow, I feel diminished. I am not sure if this is what is creating discomfort in me. I am just trying to think loud, to rationalize it, trying to grasp my subconscious emotions, to put some logic to them. Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:50 am unclecuck wrote: i don't understand you at all. if she wants to do it and you like it, why not let her. maybe her thing is to get paid? beside, does the contract says that she cant do other men? she still can do it with the boss if she is ok with it and still do other men that attractive and gets her going. whats wrong with that? It's not that I don't let her do it. I support her in all this and any other decision she takes. Furthermore, it is her decision to take, not mine; I have no saying at all in this. She can take any sex partner she wants - that's the deal we arranged long time ago. I trust her fully. The contract doesn't say she can't do other men. It only says that she has to please him, but it is not exclusive. It doesn't say either that she has to please clients or other men he could demand. It doesn't say it... but that doesn't mean that she can't do it. If her boss asked her to satisfy a client, she could refuse because this is not part of the contract... or she could accept it for the thrill or because she acknowledges that he has the power (be it real, which partially is, because the extra money is very welcome and although it is not part of the contract, she could feel that she still needs to do it and obey him, or be it fantasy, which again partially is the case, because I do think she gets off on the thrill of delegating who controls her sexuality). It's nothing wrong with it. I just happen to feel a turmoil, different than when she fucked other men just for sex. I can't change it, it just feels different. But that doesn't mean that I am totally against it or that I want to prohibit it (which I can't, because she is free to do as she wants). Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:52 am D+D wrote: Your wife likes it. Is that what's bothering you? I hope I knew what is bothering me. It just have this feeling, but writing here and reading your feedback helps me processing it. As I said in the previous post, I believe that it makes me uneasy that he is her sugar daddy and that he therefore occupies part of the space of the provider role which should be exclusively mine. I guess I am just getting into a higher cuckold level and I am even losing the privilege of being her sole provider. Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:04 am loveherso wrote: Her blog.. She started a blog with photos of what seem to be a boss and a subordinate hottie? What is up with that? It seems like the answer would be seriously fascinating. About a year ago or so she started a blog to share her hotwife experience with others. It was meant to help others who were starting in this and also to write down and retain her history so that we could recall it later. The blog had great feedback and someone suggested she should write a book and so she did. Just a month ago, she polished the story and published it in Kindle format. Of course, she had to take down the blog as it wouldn't make sense to try to sell the book in Amazon but keep the full story for free on the blog. Many followers were disappointed and wanted to keep a more live contact with her and so she started to blog in Tumblr. The book tells the story of how she started. The Tumblr blog is telling her actual live (so, the experience with her boss). There is a gap of several years between the story of the book and what is happening right now (she is considering writing a second book to catch up). Unfortunately for you guys, the book and her Tumblr are in Spanish, as she doesn't speak English. But on the bright side, she accepted putting her photo on the cover of the book. She normally is paranoid about posting her pictures, so this was a great step. This gave me the opportunity to use the same picture on my avatar (once it's out on the Internet, it's out, so it doesn't matter if I use it here). It seems like she is liking the experience to write her story and share it with others, and I enjoy it as well as it complements what she is telling me. Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:04 am D+D wrote: I enjoy her tumblr blog. Are any of the pictures of her? The only one is the the cover page of her book, which is the same as the one in my avatar. On the book cover page, you can see her fucking me reverse-cowgirl style. On the avatar on this forum here, I have removed my legs from the pictures... she is much more sexy without me :-) She is paranoid about posting her own pictures. The cover page was almost a miracle. She got so excited by the idea of publishing a book, that I was able to convince her to put a her own image on the cover. That's the only exception. Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:10 pm unclecuck wrote: Gemshub. is that her picture on your avatar? Yum Yum Yum Yes, that's my hotwife! She was riding me reverse-cowgirl, but I removed myself out of the picture with the editor. unclecuck wrote: other than that, here is an idea. might not like it or it will sound dumb. it seems what bothering you the most is that she is doing it for money and makes good money out of it. and in this case you sure don't act like a cuckold and you want to be her provider or decision maker. how about turn things around, whore her and enjoy it, use the money for your benefits, take trips, a sports car, expensive dinners and so on using just that money. i think you might enjoy it. seems like she just started this and pretty soon her income will go way up as she will provide some services to the bosses client and the tip on those are good. Good advice. I will try to follow it. It is much better trying to enjoy the ride than continue being worried. It's really the best thing I should do, since I don't have any saying in that anyway, which by the way, my wife just reminded me with a severe spanking after I bored her once again with my concerns. Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:20 pm Luvinlife wrote: How is this different from the relationship she has with hubby? Sure, there is a love connection with the hubby... granted, but so what? The financial arrangement is not much different than with the boss. And this is exactly what causes the turmoil in me, although I have no doubt that she loves ME truly, regardless of financials. Still, it's not easy. Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:32 pm 2 Bit Whore Each of my ex wives have had sex with at least one of their superiors at work. No extra pay. No promotion but just job security. The first wife was a paralegal for a much older attorney. He kept asking her various personal things such as bra size, etc. Eventually he took her to lunch and said she would go a long way toward a future in the firm if she would go out with him socially. She did. The sex was ok. Problem is he died of a heart attack about six months later. The next wife was given a great position in a bank. Eventually she ended up having sex with all the bosses as they put it, we put you in this position, we can take you out of it. Two yrs later she went to work for another firm and the boss there made it plain he expected sex from all of the female staff members. Pay was good and he did buy some nice gifts. She eventually retired. I have came to the conclusion that many women enjoy sex with either superiors or co workers. Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:15 pm unclecuck wrote: which by the way, my wife just reminded me with a severe spanking after I bored her once again with my concerns. she really did that? why you even coming to this place to ask for advise? you have the best teacher at home and can take her advise and follow her. tell Mrs Gem we admire. What Uncle Cuck said! OK, Now I get it. Dude, it sounds to me like you married way out of your league. Be happy if you have a chance to clean your wife's aching pussy with your tongue after her "Boss" has his way with her, and be happy she's let you stay in the house. If she's hot enough to catch her wealthy boss's attention, she must be something special. And it doesn't sound like she's too put out about the situation. Most of us here would give our right nut to be in your position. Is it possible that she tells you she isn't attracted to him just to sooth your ego a bit? I love the idea your concerns "Bore" her. I'm guessing you have your hands full with a really haughty, spirited classy kind of girl who'd like to think of herself as working an honest job, than the whore she really is. Let her have her illusions. It sounds like she's having a better time with this than you'd like to admit. She's used to the status her position affords her as the bosse's mistress. And one other thing to remember. The situation isn't likely to last forever, so enjoy it while you can. Good luck![/quote] Thanks for the advice! Since I convinced her a few years ago to become a hotwife, she has changed a lot. Initially she was a very modest girl with regards to sex, rather submissive as a spouse (outside sex). She had little experience before marrying me. And she would be very reticent to give me a blowjob or do any other stuff different to plain vaginal. But her first boyfriend really made her a slut... in the good sense of course. From there on, she has continued to evolve and she became more self confident in all aspects of live. Now she isn't submissive at all, at least not with me. But I like that. That's the slut I always dreamed of, although sometimes it scares me a bit, thinking of the monster I have created. She is not really classy. She has become more classy, but deep inside her, she is still the rather modest and conservative woman I married. She has changed her spirit (for good), but not her heart (which is also good). As I said, sometimes I wonder about the monster I created... I never thought she would go this far. No, I don't think she is physically attracted to her boss. The real age difference is big, but the physical appearances are even bigger. However, she might feel attracted to the whole situation and I have the feeling that one thing that turns her on is that he actually turns her off but she is still doing it. Do you know what I mean? It makes her feel more slutty and she seems to have gotten a taste for that. PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:32 pm Wife is getting ready for the company's Xmas dinner. She looks amazing! Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:31 am My wife sent me yesterday morning an email, reminding me that I needed to buy her condoms and put them into her purse. She asked for me ribbed, normal sized condoms for her boss and said she had also run out of magnum sized ones and that she needed them just in case she met someone interesting. She reminded me that it was my duty as her cuckold to make sure she always had enough condoms... unless I wanted to risk her boss getting her pregnant. I did as she requested and went shopping with that awkward feeling that us cuckolds know so well, partially excited, partially frightened and a bit jealous too. Maybe it was just my imagination, but I would swear that the cashier gave me a strange look because of my selection of condoms: big ones and medium-sized ones. Did she read my thoughts and knew it was for a hotwife? Or did she think I was gay, medium-sized for me and big ones for my lover? She spent the whole afternoon preparing herself for the company Xmas party. I poured her a bath of course, lit some candles in the bathroom and brought her a glass of wine so that she would relax. As much as she wants to look confident about this, I can feel her unease. I was wondering how she would chose to dress. Conservative in order to avoid giving her co-workers a hint of what was going on in reality? Slutty to possibly please her boss? Sensual like with the dress she chose for the dinner with him last week in Barcelona? Unlikely, as she wouldn't repeat the same dress so soon. Finally she chose a moderate, black cocktail dress. The hemline is mid-thigh and it has an asymmetrical cut, leaving one shoulder and arm naked. Sexy but conservative. I nodded with approval and admiration when she paraded for me. It was the first time I saw her in this dress; I didn't even know she had bought it. She wasn't wearing any stockings and I inquired about her underwear, but she responded that this was none of my business and that she didn't want to spoil my imagination. And then off she went in her car. Before she left, I asked her about the location of the event, but she only responded with a smile in her face that I would find out later in the evening. I thought this meant that she would send me a message, but I was waiting and waiting but my phone was silent. I wanted to ping her, but I recalled her recent spanking. My fantasy was taking off, half worried, half excited. I decided to start re-reading her book again, recalling how we started with hotwifing, amazed of how she had developed over the years. I looked at this forum to find new interesting topics or responses to my postings. Then I went to tumblr, watching some cuckold blogs and finally I checked out her tumblr. There were two new posting of my wife. One, telling were the boss had invited them for the Xmas dinner. And another, disturbing one. I thought that the spanking had been my punishment because I was continuously questioning her about her job and her boss. But then I recalled that she said that this was just a reminder of her authority and that the punishment would come later. I didn't give it too much thought at that time... but now... I saw a post from my wife on her tumblr, saying that she wouldn't inform me any longer about anything related to her job and her boss. She wouldn't tell me what they were planning, what they were doing or what they had already done. If I wanted to stay informed (god damned, of course I want!), I had to check her tumblr account. I couldn't believe it! I felt so humiliated. She was putting me on par with her tumblr followers. I would have the same information as them, at the same time, not earlier, not more! I wasn't angry, just speechless, humiliated... surprised. It was already past one in the morning and Gem hadn't come back yet from the dinner. How long does a company Xmas dinner go? What was she doing? Nervously, I checked every few minutes her blog. Finally, a short message: they were still at the casino, where the boss had hosted the dinner. Most of the colleagues had already left and she was among the last who were still there. Apparently, she had been waiting for her boss to take some initiative, but he had just left a few minutes ago. We had expected some sexual demands from him, but he had just say good night and had left. She was wondering if maybe he hadn't enjoyed her that much last week at Barcelona during their business trip. Contradicting thoughts crossed my mind: I was partially relieved with the possibility that her boss had grown bored of her and that this was stop. But I was also partially hurt in my pride because he didn't like her. How dare this old guy not lust for my wife? I suddenly became aware of my contradictory thoughts and laughed at myself. Maybe I did want her to be his whore after all? A few minutes later, another post. She had just received a message from her boss with instructions to drive to a certain address not far from the casino. So this bastard after all wanted to fuck her tonight! A surge of jealousy rushed through my head, but to my puzzlement it was quickly replaced by pride. Good girl, he wants you! I waited impatiently for an update as I suppressed my desire to call her in order to get first hand information. I kept on pushing F5, refreshing my browser and I felt how I was getting excited. The humiliation of having to wait for information just like any other follower, was making me drop precum. Can one become addicted to pressing the F5 key? About half an hour later, an update. She was at his home. He had opened the door before she ran the bell and pulled her in by her arm. He kissed her deeply and fondled her ass. He shortly interrupted the kissing to tell her that she would stay the night with him. At the bottom of her message, some words specifically for me: "I love you". A warm feeling filled my heart and I felt tears of happiness lining up in my eyes. Is there anything better than your wife fucking another man why she tells YOU that she loves you? Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:22 pm wmraim wrote: Looks like she went to work, and the boss wants her to work overtime. Well things are different in Spain. Overtime starts after 3:00pm. It seems the boss has given her the keys to his home. She's being quite mean,because she says she's been given specific instructios but doesn't explain. She also hasn't said anything about what happened last night. She is really being tested. She is being totally dominated by her boss without any idea of what will happen next ... a real victim. wmraim is right and I feel really jealous now! I expected her to be home last night, after he had sex with her to reclaim her, but he insisted on a sleepover. After acceptance settled in, I thought that they would wake up late in the morning but that instead of going to the office, she would come home early. After all, she could not go dressed this way to the office. The another post saying that he wanted her to work extra hours. I guessed that this would be at his home in his bed. But then, her most recent post saying that he had called her to his desk. He had given her the keys to his home with some specific instructions she hasn't told me yet. Now I am confused. So they did go to work this morning? It makes sense if they don't want to raise suspicions. But, with which clothing did she go to work? With her night dress? That doesn't make sense. So they went to work and then in the afternoon back to his home again? I wanted to reclaim her yesterday night, but he made her sleep over and I couldn't. I wanted to reclaim her this morning, but he made her go to work? I wanted her to reclaim her this afternoon after work (Fridays they finish at 3 pm), but he made her go to his house again! I am not pissed, just jealous. Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:33 pm Fortunately for me, she finally got back home about an hour ago. She was wearing the cocktail dress she wore to the dinner event. I was totally confused and still am. It just doesn't match her hint that they went to the office this morning, she couldn't have done it in this dress. Everybody in the office would then have known that she had slept with someone (not necessarily her boss, but they would guess that it must be either him or a co-worker). Anyway, I didn't have time to wonder. I wanted her back, I wanted to reclaim her. I kissed her and held her tight with my arms for a while. That helped me to ease my cuckold angst and I finally got the strength to tease her a bit. - So did he finally wanted to fuck you again? Were you worried he didn't like you because he left the after dinner party without inviting you in? - You can be proud of me. He likes this slut. - she answered. - Did you fuck him good, baby? - Shh! I am not going to tell you. Wait for my tumblr. - she reminded me that this had been one one inquiry too much. - Don't put this sour grimace on your face. I know you love this. She went upstairs to the bedroom. - Come!. - I followed her like a loyal dog. She undressed in front of me. My god, she is so beautiful! I don't know how, but the older she gets, the sexier she looks. I noticed that she wasn't wearing any panties or bra under her dress. Did she go commando to the dinner? Possibly. Did she go to the office without bra this morning? No, that couldn't be! I remember she was wearing a bra when she left for dinner yesterday, as I had carefully inspected if her nipples were poking through the dress, but they weren't. - They are killing me. - she said, pointing down to her feet. I know what she wanted. I went down on my knees, crawled to her and removed one shoe. I kissed her foot. Then I removed the other shoe and kissed both of her feet. I kept on kissing, licking and massaging them. I moved my tongue through the spaces of her toes, the way she likes it. - Move up. - she said after some time. I kissed her legs, slowly crawling up her body. I wanted to kiss her sex, but she closed her legs. - Not yet. You have to deserve this first. Besides, I am too sore right now down there, even for your tongue. Did you know that older people have trouble ejaculating? But he didn't have problems staying hard though, haha. I kissed and licked her belly and her hips, trying to stay as close to her sex as she would let me, inhaling her aroma. After some time I tried to move up to her tits, but she stopped me again. - No, continue doing what you were doing. So I continued kissing and licking her belly, hips, thighs... circling as close as I could to her pussy. To my surprise, she was moaning even without touching her sex. After some time, she suddenly stood up and said "I love you", with a glow in her eyes. Then she gave me one last, long kiss and went to the shower. I write this while she is showering. I feel thankful for having such a beautiful lady as my wife. Of course, I wanted to reclaim her properly, but although my balls are aching, I don't feel frustrated, just thankful that she is back and that I could enjoy her smooth skin, taste her, inhale her, be close to her. Life is good and for the whole weekend, she will be only mine. Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:27 am My wife has finally "told" me via her tumblr what has happened Thursday night after dinner and Friday afternoon. I feel like I am the last one to know about it... Is there a way to get notified by tumblr when an update has been made? I can't continue accessing her tumblr every time I have a moment, just to check if there is something new. Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:01 am I think I left the rapport when she went to his house and he pulled her in. She excused herself and went to the bathroom to freshen up and update her tumblr. When she went back to the living room, he was sitting on the couch with a glass of whisky in his hand. She knew what she had to do and sat down on him with her legs opened, facing him. I guess her dress had to move up for her to sit on him with her legs spread. He immediately put a hand on my wife's godly behind. With the other hand, he grabbed her neck, pulled her towards him and kissed her deeply. She said that he smelled and tasted like alcohol, which she didn't like, but he kissed her anyway. She said it was a wet kiss. He then offered her a glass of whisky, but she declined. She doesn't like strong alcohol. Instead, she zipped open her dress and removed her bra. I imagine her sitting topless on his legs, after he just kissed her, and it drives me crazy. I feel partially disgusted, partially turned on. If it were a young bull, it would just turn me on, but with this older guy who is her boss... Anyway... She took his glass out of his hand and took a sip. I said that she doesn't like alcohol in general, especially strong alcohol, but she drank it anyway out of his glass. I am not sure if this was to make him happy or because she needed a drink to be brave. She said that this way, she would have the same taste in her mouth and wouldn't taste him any longer. And as if to prove it, she kissed him again. He was getting excited (who can blame him, having such a hot woman sitting on him?) and took his dick out of his pants. He pulled up her dress above her ass and tried to slip her panties to a side in order to penetrate her. But she stopped him and stood up. Half naked, standing in front of him, he took his glass of whisky and drank again. She then undress completely in front of him, wearing only her fuck me pumps. This and the hotwife anklet (just a normal anklet, without any charms), earrings and her wedding ring. For me, it is important that she wears both her hotwife anklet and her wedding ring when she is with other men. I don't know if others feel the same, but it has a meaning for me. It says that she has sexual freedom but that she is faithful in her heart and that I know and approve it. Do others think the same with regards to this accessories? She took a condom out of her purse. Her boss undressed in a flash and she put it on his cock. When she was about to finish putting it on his dick, he stopped her and say that he would go bareback with her in 2017!!! She was paralyzed and so I am! We never talked about bareback. We are usually very cautious with this and only a few selected lovers have had her bareback. The thought of his old sperm filling my wife's fertile womb, makes a strange feeling creep up through my body. It is a mix of revulsion and excitement. It is kind of gross. She wanted to protest, but his tone was commanding. She obliged, but not before trying to negotiate something out of it. She asked him for a salary increase and that he had to previously show her a proof of being free from STDs. He accepted the latter, but with regards to the salary increase, he said that she would need to wait for the performance review upon the finish of her trial period. Yes, he explicitly said "performance" and I guess he does not only mean work performance. The tone of his voice made clear the negotiation was over. Gem said she was unsure if she had won or lost with this negotiation, but she complied and moved to sit on him, letting his protected cock penetrate her. While they were fucking, her boss took another sip of whisky and offered the glass to her. She took it but instead of drinking, she poured the remains over her tits and he licked it up. My wife says that her boss has a high endurance, maybe because of his age. But unlike her younger lovers he is a one shot canon only. Apparently it took a while until he came in her (well, in the condom, fortunately), but my wife hadn't cum yet. She said it wasn't because he didn't las long, it was because of the angle of the penetration or whatever. I wonder if she just wasn't excited enough. How much of this is she doing for the money and how much is naught pleasure? Anyway, she said that women not only need to cum in order to feel pleasure. After he had cum, she stood up rapidly, fearing that he would go soft soon and she didn't want that due to his softness semen could leak out of the condom while still inside her. I have to say that she currently isn't on birth control, other than condoms (I am fixed). Her boss stood up as well, took her hand and reminded her that he wanted her to stay with him the rest of the night. He explained that it didn't make any sense for her to go back home, just to have to wake up in a few hours and go to work. His home is close to the office and she would be better up sleeping over. She accepted his logic, but didn't realize at this time (she must have felt tired because of the long night and the fucking), that she couldn't possibly go to the office with her party dress. They went up to the bedrooms and there, laying on the bed was a complete secretary outfit: white sheer blouse, black mini skirt, black bra, black panties, black garter belt and... white stockings with a seam line on the back. As I was reading this on her tumblr, things didn't make sense to me. So he had envisioned already that she would be sleeping over and had bought her some clothes? This bastard is a devious planner! But why did she come back home the other day wearing her party dress? I am thinking of it and the only explanation I find (I am not allowed to inquire) is that she was teasing me, making my mind work hard on fitting the puzzle together with her scarce hints. Apparently the clothes were laying on the guest bedroom. But he took her hand and walked her to the master bedroom instead. They slept together. Naked! She said that she was laying sidewards, with her back to him, while he was embracing her from behind (just as he did the previous time in the hotel). My wife sleeping naked with her older boss while he is holding her, sleeping so close together, young skin (she is in the forties, but she looks younger), touching old, crumpled skin (he is in the early sixties, but looks older). Somehow, this is having a bigger impact on me than her just bouncing on his dick. I don't know... him kissing her... both sleeping naked, close to each other... Is this something that has more importance for the other cuckolds like me or am I the only one? The next morning the alarm clock went off early and they went off to the office. Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:51 am She said that she had been waiting for me to ask on tumblr to tell this part of the story, but that although I hadn't done it yet, she didn't want other followers having to wait for it because of me! I guess I have to create a tumblr account and start asking her if I don't want to wait for the details :-( So, Friday afternoon they finished at the office at 3pm, as they usually do on Fridays. Everything apparently normal. Her boss stayed a bit longer in the office but had instructed her to head to his home. He had given her the keys so that she could wait inside. I think this was a good strategy in order to not raise suspicions. I can only guess that in the morning they didn't arrive on the same time, but I am not sure. She entered the living room and found that food was already prepared and on the table, still steaming. She thinks that he had called some kind of catering service. She also found some roses and a letter from him: - Take off your blouse, skirt and panties, but leave all the rest on. Redo your makeup and when you are finished, send me a full body selfie in front of the mirror and send it to me. WTF? Now he is even asking for pictures? That was never part of the deal! She did as he had instructed. Damn, Gem, this was risky! How could she not think about the risks of what he could do later with this picture? She received a reply on her phone. He told her to look in a living room for a small red box and to open it. It contained a small device with instructions to use it until he came back home. He said that she had to use it until she was about to cum, then stop and start again. She wants her wet and creamy when he gets home! She sat down on a chair and started to masturbate with the vibrator. She said it didn't took her long to start feeling wet. Such a slutty wife, so easy to have her become wet! She had to stop once in order not to cum and was about to climax again when her boss arrived. He didn't say anything, no hello, nothing, he just observed her silently, nodding with his head. After some time, he moved towards her and gave a brief kiss on the lips. He even told her that she was precious! He then asked her to serve the meal. While they were eating, she had to continue using the vibrator, always stopping shortly before cumming. Meal and wine were good, she said, although she was not able to concentrate on the taste. When they finished eating, her boss asked her to fetch her a box of cigars. She moved slowly, allowing him to watch her half naked in garter belt, stocking and bra, but with her ass and pussy exposed. He said thank you and offered her a cigar. But she doesn't smoke. In fact she hates it. I know she finds it repulsive. While he smoked, he asked her to use the vibrator again, but this time while she was standing. She complied. She said that she was soaking wet and that her wetness was dripping down her thighs. His boss was taking his time and she edged two more times. After finishing admiring her, he stood up and took her by the hand to the bedroom. The bed had been freshly made (I guess he has some house service) and there were rose petals all over the bed. Romantic. Damn! That wasn't necessary, he is paying her! I don't mind that he is a gentleman with her, I of course prefer this, but this romanticism was a bit too much for my taste, specially coming from him. Standing next to the bed, she embraced him and kissed him. She knew she would feel the disgusting taste of tobacco in his mouth, but she still took the initiative and kissed him. She kissed him deeply! Definitely trying to show good "performance", I think. Such a brave wife. He was holding her ass with both his hands. Oh yes, I understand that he likes her bottom, this is one of her best parts. She undressed him (again taking the initiative), still kissing. He unhooked her bra. He laid with his back on the bed and told her to ride him. She was going to put a condom on his cock, but she had left her purse in the living room. Fortunately he took one from the drawer. He said: "2017". She said that she suddenly shivered, thinking of his old, slow but still fertile cum swimming through her body. While riding him, she came three times (three!!!). She said that it was either because the angle of penetration was better this time or because she was already so wet from edging with the vibrator. Her first orgams was small, but the second one she felt it like an earthquake. The third one, she really didn't need it to feel satisfied, but since he hadn't cum yet, she felt in the obligation of riding him to orgasm and while she did so, she came this third time. They were both tired because the previous night had been long and they hadn't slept enough as they went early to the office. Also the wine... and the long fucking. She felt asleep on his chest, with her legs still spread over him. When she woke up after the nap he was snorting. She tried to move away, but although he was sleeping, he held her tight. She was still sleepy so she didn't resist and took another nap, laying on him. I imagine her face on his chest, her arms surrounding him (as she wouldn't have any other place to put them), his arms holding her back... When they finally woke up, she suddenly realized that he had his dick inside her when she felt asleep. Damn Gem, you must be more careful! He might be old, but his swimmers can still reach the finish line. She reached down, trying to find out if he was still in her. His cum had drained out of the condom because of his softness and she was all wet down below. Apparently his dick wasn't inside her any longer, but she (and I) could only pray that he took it out before he fell asleep and went soft. She said that her belly was wet and sticky with his cum. I guess this means that it didn't happen inside her. Fortunately she was not on her fertile days anyway. She gave him a short goodbye kiss and rushed back home. When she reached her car, there was a letter on the windscreen. I don't know yet what it said. I guess I need to ask her on tumblr. Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:02 am Sudden realization: While I was writing what had happened, translating her posts in tumblr, I suddenly realized something. A hidden aspect in her story, which I didn't realize previously because she is telling it slowly, long after events have happened and not chronologically (she first posted about what happened Friday afternoon and then what happened Thursday night). I wonder if she was planning for this. Maybe she is learning how to become a devious schemer from him. As I told before, Friday afternoon she slept on him. Cum leaked out of the condom while they were sleeping and soaked their bellies. When she came back home on Friday, we had sweet, submissive sex. No penetration: she just wanted me to massage her feet and lick her. She didn't let me taste her pussy, she just wanted me to kiss and lick her all around. I thought she was teasing me, denying me her pussy, but... I was licking his dried cum! It wasn't a cream pie, because they don't do bareback (yet), but it was still his cum on my wife's skin which I was licking. Ahrg! :( I have done this before, with other lovers. I do enjoy it, because the smell and taste of sex excites me and because I like the humiliation and devotion of doing this for her. But with her sixty so and so year old boss? This wrinkled cum! If I had known before... Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:09 am I am somewhat disturbed because my wife just posted that she likes kissing her boss. She said that he tastes bad (tabac and oftentimes whisky) and that on one hand she is repulsed by it, but on the other hand, it is her who takes the initiative of kissing him DEEPLY and looks him in the eyes when she does it. She says it feels special when she does it, even though he is not attractive and doesn't taste good. I feel kissing is a very intimate thing. Sometimes it is just part of sex, but sometimes it is a major act by itself. Her taking the initiative, her kissing him deep, tasting the tabac in his mouth, which she usually hates completely, her looking him in the eyes, getting naked for him... it's a vision and a feeling I have not experienced before when she has been with other lovers. Why is it diferent? I thought I had already seen it all, but Instand corrected and distressed. Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:59 pm Thanks for sharing your thoughts. When we started hotwifing some years ago, we had the following rules: It had to be preferably at our home, or at least, I had to be present. Condoms. She had to tell me everything. It didn't take long for her bull to push the limits and have her break the rules. First time she broke it, it was at our house, but I wasn't present. To be precise, I got to see only the grand final. It was very exciting to find them making out unexpected on the couch. The surprise was for me, because they had arranged it on purpose, so that I would "catch" them. It was very exciting and I wasn't pissed. Then later came her first sleepover at his apartment. We had planned going out together, but I was having a terrible headache. I didn't want to spoil them and asked them to go out without me, but to come back for sex. Her bull got her a bit tipsy and she ended up sleeping with him at his apartment. He texted me and said that I could either call her and break this off, or accept my beta status and remember that I had tasked him with slutifying my wife. The cuckold angst was killing me, but in hindsight it was a great move. And I have to say that I trust my wife completely. I thought about the whole rules thing and I realized that it was not only constraining us, but also creating more friction than necessary. So I proposed her that instead, she should have complete freedom. And that although I want to know all details, she would be entitled to hold back about 20%. That would give her some space for well deserved intimacy, would enable her to surprise me by telling some hidden details later on and would keep my cuckold angst and excitement high by wondering it something else was happening. It has worked great for us this way. Did I say already that I completely trust her and that inspire of what it may seem, she is not a crazy wild bitch? So, sleepovers have happened in the past with other lovers. But I could always understand the reasons for her excitement, because they were well endowed and attractive. But this is different. As of the question of whether or not she knows that I am posting on this blog: she kind of knows that I am writing somewhere, but not exactly where. She doesn't speak English, so it is unlikely that she will search and find this forum. If she asked me, I would tell her, but she is leaving me some space; she knows I need this to digest my feelings. Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:34 pm But I wouldn't call him a lover. He is her boss and he hired her for sex. And he is much older. It's a kind of sugardaddy, I guess. Yes, she will let him cum inside her. She has just started to take the pill again, because he insisted that in 2017 he wanted to go bare. My wife is fucking with my mind: she doesn't tell me anything; she just posts on tumblr and that's my only source of news, like a common follower. He made clear in December that this was a requirement. It wasn't a surprise for her and she accepted, but she asked for an STD test. Yesterday she went to see him. She didn't have to, it was a bank holiday, but she took the initiative. She said she wanted to give himself nice Xmas present (here in Spain it's on the 6th of January because it's the Three Magic Kings). She said he deserved it because he was being good toner: respectful and he had given her extra holidays. She said she wanted to keep him happy. She went to his home in a sexy Danta Claus disguise. As far as I could read on her blog, she was going to give him a blow job, which she hadn't done yet with him. She did, although not to completion. She then took a condom to let him fuck her, but he had a surprise on his own: the STD test. So, no STD and it is already 2017, and he is her boss and is demanding bareback. But she just started the pill and isn't safe yet. So what did she do? I can only guess, but Infear the answer. There is a picture on her Tumblr of youn girl cowgirl riding an old man (his favorite position) with his dick in her ass. When she came home this morning (sleepover!), I of course wanted to reclaim her. She let me fuck her, but previously, she insisted that I licked her whole body, with special attention to her ass. I hadn't seen this post eithe the picture before, because she blogged it later on in the day. But she is either completely fucking with my mind or it all adds up to... Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:39 am Apparently she wasn't happy with my performance of reclaiming her. She said that She didn't like the time when I asked her if she had showered and that she found that I hesitated going down on her. I usually love it (I didn't at the beginning she we started, but she has trained me well), but if I am honest, I am guild of what she accuses me of. I guess I don't mind it if it is a well built bull, but her boss is the contrary of what I would call a bull, st least physically. Long story short, I am in chastity now (we hadn't played that for a long time), until I improve and fully accept her partner choice. At least, I got to come inside her this weekend. Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:32 pm Wifey has been away because she has been ill (caught the flu two times in a row). Yesterday she went back to work. She reported that things were pretty tense in the company with one of her bosses partners. Apparently the company is not performing as well as expected. Today they had a very tense meeting with the partner. She said this younger partner was quite impertinent with her boss. After the meeting, to relax him (or was it out of pity), she gave him a nice blowjob in his office. She said that it tasted bad, as usual (coffee, cigars), but that she swallowed it all. He didn't ask her for the blowjob, she did it on her own initiative. I remember years ago, before she started hotwifing, she would barely give my dick a few licks because she hated the taste of precum and now... she has much evolved. She said that after she gave him the blowjob, she remained on her knees for a while, with her face on his groin, close to his now soft dick, while he was caressing her head. And what I fear is that very soon he will take her cunt bareback. He insisted several times last year that he would go bareback with her this year. She was late to take her pill and she gave him a few weeks ago her ass instead. So now he has already cum in two of her holes and I am sure he will hit the main one soon. She has gone bareback with few selected lovers in the past. But they have been strong, good looking, younger. I kind of bothers me thinking of his old sperm swimming through my wifes beautiful body. Cum is cum, but it feels different. Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:33 am Good for my wife she doesn't live in the US or SHE would be in jail. I think she would strongly disagree with prohibiting prostitution. One should be able to do with her body what she wants. Funny that porn production is allowed but not prostitution. One could debate which is "worse". I don't think she is getting a fetish about old men. I believe she just posts these images just to tease me, because she knows I don't like it. It's hard for me to understand what she gets out of it. A stronger and younger stud? Sure! But an older man? I don't get it, but I respect it. I am not sure if I am right, I just hope this is an exception and she is not getting into it. I agree with you about how you define her boss. He is taking advantage of the situation because he has the money and the power. He really disgusts me. But my wife wouldn't agree with us. Seeing how she eagerly pleases him and takes the initiative, she doesn't seem to be pushed into doing it. Although I cannot understand it, she seems to enjoy it in some strange way. I always have to remember that from the beginning she knew what it would be like. She didn't have an interview with him and the he put his requirements in the table. Instead, she talked with a former lover and he put them in contact, knowing very well what he was looking for. I still don't get it how she one half says that his taste disgusts her, but that she nevertheless eagerly puts her tongue into his mouth, seeking for that rancid flavor. How can she like it and not like it? Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:22 pm It's happening today. In fact, at this time, I think it already has happened. My wife posted a "Do not disturb" message on her Tumblr and she was prepping herself yesterday evening. I sneaked a peek and she was wearing WHITE lingerie, including stockings and garters. She has been on the pill for little over a month now, so at least she should be safe in that regard. Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:08 am She's stayed overnight at his home. Not sure if she is exaggerating just to tease me, but she says it has been wonderful and that he has cum in her already three times. :shock: They will head from his home to the office. Can't way to have her back in the afternoon. Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:14 am Thank you. Wife is about to return home. Can't wait to have her in my arms again, here all the details and reclaim her. Too bad she has decided to not give me any additional information other than what she publishes and that I am currently locked. But I always hope she will reconsider in both regars. Wish me luck that today will be my day! Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:35 pm Experienced User avatar Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:24 am Posts: 150 My wife came home a couple of hours ago. I was so happy to see her again! I took her in my arms. My cage pressed against her belly, reminding her that I am her loving and supportive husband... but nevertheless wanting to be at least temporarily released from these chains to be able to reclaim her. She took me directly to the bedroom and asked me to undress. There I was standing in front of her, naked except for my chastity. She said: Don't ask any questions, you'll soon find out. And then she added: I will only advance you one thing. Whatever you imagine, you will fall short! Then she asked me to undress her slowly. I helped her to step out of her blouse and business skirt and there she was, my beautiful wife, all in white lingerie. Before she left Thursday morning, I was able sneak a quick peek on her underwear, but now I was able to contemplate her in full glory. White like purity. White like unstained. White like a virgin... or a bride. She slowly turned several times around, letting me admire her. I was getting a boner and my dick was aching in its cage. My wife noticed it. She reached out to my caged and asked me: Oh dear, does it hurt? I nodded silently. She was holding my balls and the contact with her hands just made it worse. Poor little hubby, she teased me. But you are much sweeter and docile now that you are locked, don't you agree? Isn't this a small sacrifice to show me your love and be the gentle husband I deserve? I was only able to nod. I swear I had the feeling I was going to burst through the CB6000. She turned and asked me to unhook her bra and so I did. She turned again to face me, covering her breasts with her hands. You have no idea how much I love you, she said. But heart took a brink. She lowered her arms, uncovering her beautiful, natural breasts and reached out for my hands. I was imagining that some other man had just sucked on her pointy nipples, but I was avoiding to bring up the specific image of her old boss. She put my hands on her hips and asked my if I wanted to remove her cute panties. Once again, I was only able to nod in silence. She pulled down my hands, signaling that I should slip down her panties. I did as required and they slipped down her legs to the ground. Her white stockings and white garter belt were just emphasizing her smooth and bald pussy, just as I liked it, without any her. She is a MILF, but I swear she was looking like an innocent teenage babe to me in this very moment. You know who else did that? Her question had just reminded me about something I was trying to get out of my mind. I love it when she fucks other men. I love it when she is slutty. Damn, I love it even more when she does this slutty-innocent thing. I just don't like the image of the rancid hands soling her body. But she keeps on teasing me, fucking with my mind. And you don't mind?, she asked. In spite of my excitement, I noticed this was a trick question. The reason why she had locked me up was, that I was mentioning to her too frequently that I didn't like him. This time, I silently shook my head. Good boy! Now, take me to bed and make love to me the way you know. In my case this usually means lot of caressing and kissing. She made me lick her all over. Her breasts, her belly, her thighs, her back, her buttocks... and yes, also her pussy and ass. I was allowed to make her cum by licking her pussy, while she was teasing me: Yes baby, lick me clean, make me yours again! I swear I could taste a rancid flavor inside her pussy. She orgasmed and I laid next to her. While I was holding her, she took an afternoon nap and I was thinking what lucky man I am, for having a wife with such an imagination. I would have been completely happy, wasn't it for the foul taste on my tongue. Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:59 pm Trainable - Location: Monrovia, Md. Great thread, GemsHubby. Of course you realize that sex is in the mind first... and her boss is a master mind player. You sort of have to be to be successful in business. I have to admire him and you should too... Despite his age and NOT being hung like a porn star he has made your wife love his dick and mouth, his smell and taste. First, he baited her by NOT making his move too early. When she was too curious and apprehensive and made her move to have sex with her he had won the first round of control. He had led her to desiring him, even if it was just curiosity and impatience it was still exciting for her. With women it almost does not matter if they come or not if there is sufficient excitement. Reading between the lines he has continued to increase his control over her through surprises and romance and just keeping her interested. He is has also been training her to accept things she did not like before ... booze and cigar smell and maybe other things. His actions are constantly increasing his control over her. Her action of sucking him in the office and then just resting with his soft dick in her mouth (guessing....) and her head in his lap indicate that she is emotionally attached to serving him (and his dick). He is a Dom and is making her his sex slave. At this point he owns her while she owns you... Does he know you are a cuckold? I bet he does and I think it was probably his idea for her to force you to read Tumbler to get your info... he can read it too, read her tone and know more than what you know. If you think she is in control and doing it for money, I think you are wrong. At this point, I think if he reduced her salary "due to hard times" she would still serve him. Telling her how she is being manipulated and turned into a sex slave may not change anything. She is letting him control her orgasms and seems to love it. Some women are just totally submissive to one guy and totally dominant with another. Has he started to spank her yet? If you don't think she is infatuated with him ... how many other lovers has your wife bothered with since serving him? What you should consider is what your roll in this is going to be. One, you can stay home and clean her and hope he eventually gets tired of her - which won't be for a long time with her looks and the pace of training. The other possibility is to ask to be part of it - go with them on a trip and be a servant while they have sex... though he may not be into that in which case you are SOL. BTW, us old guys can do just fine in bed with just an average dick. It helps to set the woman up mentally, to last long enough and to know what you are doing. Obviously he is doing just fine keeping her turned on and cumming. One more thing - obviously he is not a one shot son-of-gun... just needs a little rest between. My prediction is that as her submission to him grows and he gains more control and plays more mind games with her his attraction and interest will grow. It's possible that once he has total control he might get bored and discard her - or demand less ... Maybe after she has his baby... You say he is old but if he is in his 60's he could work another 20 years+ if in shape - or retire but still have her serve him. I know of one Dominant who had a sub 30 years his junior and she was in service to him when he died... - at 94. Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:56 pm You definitely got my attention! You got me hard (as far as my cage allows it) and scared at the same time. I feel the urge to reply to you, not just out of courtesy, but to digest what you said. :shock: Say_Oy wrote: First, he baited her by NOT making his move too early. When she was too curious and apprehensive and made her move to have sex with her he had won the first round of control. He had led her to desiring him, even if it was just curiosity and impatience it was still exciting for her. I now see it! It comes crystal clear. She was hired with certain conditions, but instead of rushing it, he didn't make his move until more than a month had passed. Yes, I remember she said (when she still communicated with me directly about this topic instead of limiting me to tumblr), she was worried about what was going on, because he was paying her premium, but he hadn't even mentioned the topic of her sexual services again since after he had hired her. She was worried that he might have lost interest in her, find her not attractive enough... That made her stir in anticipation. It was a slow but sly way of preparing her mentally, making her looking for it. And he succeeded, as it was her who took the first step and ever since, she is oftentimes making the move without waiting for him to require her. :up: for him. Say_Oy wrote: Her action of sucking him in the office and then just resting with his soft dick in her mouth (guessing....) and her head in his lap indicate that she is emotionally attached to serving him (and his dick). He is a Dom and is making her his sex slave. At this point he owns her while she owns you... The thought of her face in his lap and his soft dick in his mouth revolts me at the same time as it excites me. My wife is neither an actress nor a professional prostitute. You are right, if she does this, there is some emotional attachment. But, do you really think he is a Dom? It makes me very nervous, half for positive reasons, half for negative reasons. But I don't think that he owns her... at least not yet (although she does own me). You think this is only the beginning? :???: Say_Oy wrote: Does he know you are a cuckold? I bet he does and I think it was probably his idea for her to force you to read Tumbler to get your info... he can read it too, read her tone and know more than what you know. Yes, he knows about my condition. My wife was very open from the beginning. He said he didn't understand that, how I could act this way, but was ok with it. Now, I am shocked, I never thought of it. You think it was his idea about limiting me to tumblr? It's a possibility I have never considered, but it would explain some things. And you believe he is reading it too? So she would be putting all those old-young porn not just to tease me, but also to please him? It's a possibility, but... in those messages she is also saying that his mouth stinks and that she finds it repulsive. Of course, they could have a prior agreement to post this just to fuck with my mind. But then, she also posted that she was going to surprise him for Xmas. That would have been counterproductive if he knew about the blog, wouldn't it. I don't know, man, I don't know. Say_Oy wrote: If you think she is in control and doing it for money, I think you are wrong. At this point, I think if he reduced her salary "due to hard times" she would still serve him. I agree that she is not doing it just for the money. Somehow, she is getting something out of it on a personal level. And yes, she would probably do it for much less at this stage. But do think she is still in control of it. Say_Oy wrote: Some women are just totally submissive to one guy and totally dominant with another. Has he started to spank her yet? She is definitely dominant with me. And as it seems, she is behaving a bit submissive with him. I am not aware that he has spanked her yet. Would she tell me if he had? Would she post it on tumblr? Maybe yes, maybe no. Does he have this kind of fetish? You seem to be convinced. I am just... not sure what the right word is or if even a proper word exists... I will just use anxious for now. Say_Oy wrote: If you don't think she is infatuated with him ... how many other lovers has your wife bothered with since serving him? None. Do you always have to bring up the facts this way? (The weekend before the business trip and her first night with him, she went out and picked up a random guy and stayed overnight with him. She said she needed it to prove herself that she was able to wake up next day in the hotel room with him. But after the trip, no lovers). Say_Oy wrote: What you should consider is what your roll in this is going to be. One, you can stay home and clean her and hope he eventually gets tired of her - which won't be for a long time with her looks and the pace of training. The other possibility is to ask to be part of it - go with them on a trip and be a servant while they have sex... though he may not be into that in which case you are SOL. I am not sure if he is into this cuckolding thing. But I will gladly do as my wife requires me. As long as it means staying close to her, I would even accept that. Say_Oy wrote: BTW, us old guys can do just fine in bed with just an average dick. It helps to set the woman up mentally, to last long enough and to know what you are doing. Obviously he is doing just fine keeping her turned on and cumming. Again with the hard, blunt facts? I am locked, she hasn't had any other lovers, but yet she seems satisfied. Can't argue with your damned logic. Say_Oy wrote: One more thing - obviously he is not a one shot son-of-gun... just needs a little rest between. That's curious because she always reported that he was a one-shot guy. Except when he had her vagina bareback, then he suddenly landed four shots instead. It must have really gotten him excited. It is strange he appreciated her pussy so much more than her ass. Say_Oy wrote: Maybe after she has his baby... No, no. No, no, no, no, no. We will not go down this path. Pregnancy risk is a hot but risky fantasy. But you are being serious with it, right? You are not just teasing? I am clipped, because we didn't want to have more babies. And now you are saying she might still want to get pregnant by him. Oh dear, no, no, no. Please get this out of my head! Say_Oy wrote: You say he is old but if he is in his 60's he could work another 20 years+ if in shape - or retire but still have her serve him. I know of one Dominant who had a sub 30 years his junior and she was in service to him when he died... - at 94. Amazing! Mind to share with me how it worked and what they did? Did she become pregnant too by him? Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:48 pm Wife and me here in the living room, each one with our own laptop... She has just posted some updates. She must have seen the shock on my face and become aware that I had just discovered them, because she gave me a devious smile. I'll summarize: Someone was asking her if she likes older men. Her reply was that she has never find them attractive, but that she was curious to fin out how it was to be with an older man who at the same time would also be her boss. But then, she has found that she increasingly likes having sex with Gerardo, her boss. She says she doesn't know exactly why. She pinpoints that it might be just because it's different or... because it pisses me off. She says that she is not taken back at all because he is older and not good looking. She asked me to send her a message on tumblr, explaining my feelings after I reclaimed her with my mouth this afternoon. I told her that I usually love doing this for her, but that this time, I had a foul taste in my mouth. It turns out that she has tricked me, just to show me that I am having prejudices towards Gerard. She said that she had showered (with him) before coming home, because previously they had to go to the office (she didn't want everybody knowing she was his whore, the moment she entered the office smelling like him). But she has promised (or shall I say threaten?) that soon I would be tasting him. An then, there is a large account on what happened this Thursday with him: She said that the experience has been rather... unsettling. She is still digesting it, specially her feelings. :o She wonders why having first time unprotected vaginal sex with him made her feel like a virgin (he had taken her ass bareback already before). She wonders if it could be because unlike the anal sex, which was not planned, this is something that was expected and planned (she has been taken the pill now for little over than a month in preparation for this). It hasn't been the first time bareback with a lover, but it felt differently with him. She wonders if it might be due to the age difference, that she felt like a teenager again. She says that she had selected the white lingerie on purpose as she was feeling like a virgin ready to be deflowered. Funny, Gerardo had the same idea and had laid ready in the bed room a set of white lingerie for her. They had laughed because the had had the same thoughts. The laughs and the evidence of the same thoughts had improved their connection. She repeats that she doesn't find Gerardo physically attractive and describes him as obese, dry skin, etc. She would not search for this on a lover. And again, his foul smell and taste. She rather finds it disgusting. But then, nevertheless, when she thinks of his swimmers entering her body, she gets wet. And instead of facing away when he kisses her, he does all the contrary and digs deep with her tongue in his mouth. Somehow this smell has become his personal brand and the stronger it is, the more she wants to kiss him deeply. She should feel repelled, but instead she is attracted even stronger. She wonders if something is wrong with her, that she is behaving counter-logic and asks her followers for opinion. And then she admits that while she is writing this post, she is fingering herself, although I just had made her cum. This post of hers makes me think that Say_Oy's assessment might be quite close to reality... too close. Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:40 pm No penetrative sex for me since several weeks, as I am still locked up. Several years ago, before I suggested her becoming a hotwife, I tried several times to be more dominant with her. I guess I am kind of a switch and I like it both ways. But she completely refused. As of now, I am submissive to her. I guess that if I try to become dominant at this stage, it will earn me a severe spanking at least, for misbehavior and not being respectful. But bulls are different... Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:29 am Experienced Thanks for your quick response. Honestly, I don’t know if this chastity-play is such a good idea, at least not over such a long period of time. In one of your earlier posts you told that your wife said, that you had no idea how much she loves you. So, I assume if you would be really serious about it, telling her you simply need her loving now, she would have penetrative sex with you immediately or am I wrong? You also mentioned that you and your wife don't want to have more babies. So, means this, that you and your wife have already children together? Please, excuse me for this personal question, but I have to admit I'm curious to know, because of your earlier statement that you got clipped and the pregnancy risk. Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:36 am We are in our forties. We took care of our procreational instincts in our twenties when we married. I think we are done in that chapter. For sure I am, since I am clipped, but my wife has her maternal instincts covered as well. I find pregnancy risk exciting as long as it stays as a pure fantasy. My wife wouldn't even talk about it, not even as a fanatasy. It's not been so long since I am locked up, "just" about a month. The max we have done has been about two months. It does have an effect on my attitude. Obviously, I hate being locked, it I have to be honest and admit that I use to masturbate obsessively. Having the libido high, makes me act sweeter with her, and I like this, because sometimes I tend to answer a bit harsh and being in chastity makes me be much softer we have. I hate the device, but I love the softness it produces in me. And I miss fucking her, but I understand that this is part of her dominance play. By the way, we are in a female-led relationship. She is sweet and loving, not a feminazi. She wasn't dominant at all in our beginnings, but over time, since she started hotwifing (after I pressed her), she has become much more assertive. I enjoy it when she is bold and takes her own decisions, because that's just the opposite to how she started. She was ever so concerned to not hurt my feelings, that she wasn't really enjoying. I trust her and so once I proposed to eliminate all rules. She should do as she best saw fit. Who, when, where and how... that would be her own decision. I also gave her some room for intimacy and suggested that she didn't need to tell me 100%, she could delay some information and even not disclose some pieces. I find it exciting not completely knowing what is happening. She has been quite imaginative with this, to my best enjoyement, but never to the extreme of treating me in this aspect like any other Tumblr follower. I both love it and hate it. But I really appreciate her being so bold. This has been a big step in her evolution. She has had lovers before which I didn't like. As I said, that's her choice. And I admit it, I have had the most intense feelings in these cases. Intense is both good and bad, just as the cuckold angst is. But with Gerardo, I am having extra difficulties. Being locked up helps, though. I believe she will release me soon and I am looking forward to reclaim her. But at the same time, I am also an it scared. Usually after being locked, I tend to eyaculate prematurely. Does this happen to others too? Sometimes she would be understanding, wait for recharge and try again. Sometimes she will tease me for bad performance and make me admit that she needs her lovers. Other times she would be cold and lick me way again, saying that I had my chance and failed and that I am better off this way so that I don't even try to disappoint her. It's all very exciting play, but I would especially hate the latter two options with Gerardo. Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:00 pm Another update from her blog: Ever since she started as a hotwife, she has bee shaving bald and smooth down there. I love it this way and I was so very happy when she did it for the first time, even knowing that it wouldn't be for me. But app entry her boss is more classic inclined nd he wants hair down there. I don't what will the extend, but my wife said she would let it grow for him. Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:08 am Trainable - GemsHubby - I didn't know the 94 year old Dom well. I inferred the relationship observing him and his GF. She was 60+ and a Grandma to my nephew (no pregnancy concerns) but I could tell she was a service sub to him from their behavior during family gatherings. I am a Dom and have a sub myself and if you are into BDSM you start recognizing patterns. It's funny, I put it in terms of BDSM and D/s but sometimes the people I am categorizing are not aware of it - they are simply living in a "traditional" manner. :) So I will admit that some of my thoughts are speculation - but I will also say it's based on observation of real life and reading. While women might like a good looking guy, they are built to be affected by head space. There is a 2 hr PBS documentary about human sexuality and one of their main points is that natural selection drives our desires. If you look at having kids as a genetic selection factor then men want to screw around a lot - drop their seed in lots of women - but not hang around to raise the kids. So men are more physically driven to fuck and leave, and less emotional. You could never be sure the kid was yours but you could increase your chances of spreading your genes if you fucked a lot of women. Women were stuck raising the kids - they knew it came out of their body and was their kid, regardless of who the father was. So Women are programmed to look for men that are able to support and protect them and the kid. It increases chances of the woman surviving. So a rich or powerful leader is more attractive than the muscular field hand. On the other hand, the field hand is likely in shape and can survive physical hardship better - so a woman is driven to first find a sugar-daddy for a comfortable life... but is having a spare lover on the side has selective advantages - if he feels attached to her then if sugar-daddy gets knocked off during war the lover will step in and rescue the woman and her kids... So natural selection is to have kids by the fiscally successful guy but sneak in a kid by the physically superior guy also... Women react emotionally to $$, social status and "trappings of success". Once the $$ feelings are satisfied they might go for the physical specimen. Of course, it's not black and white. Some of us like people of the same sex - genes get mixed up - some genes for family ties get into men so we also want family (and there is natural selection for a man to protect his harem (think of Baboon society). So having your wife attracted to a powerful and rich man - "The Boss" with the obvious trappings of wealth (house, invisible servants to prep meals / bed) is very natural. Never mind that he is not hot looking - his wealth and therefore everything about him is fascinating and attractive. The liking his taste despite hating it in the past is Pavlovian response. She is learning to associate the cigar and booze taste with emotional satisfaction, excitement, pleasure and orgasm. The first time she sort of forced herself to accept them to do her duty. With exposure she has acquired a taste for them. It's like learning to smoke - first you cough and cry and hate it - but with practice you start to crave cigarettes. Same with drinking scotch or whisky. At first they taste terrible. Eventually you learn to appreciate a good black Rum or smooth Polish Rye vodka... (of course I am biased.) Kids - don't mention them to him. i.e. don't plant the idea. See above about men spreading seeds but not investing in raising their offspring. But he may not have thought of it in those terms and may simply want to go bareback for the sensation - and knowing she is taking his sperm home to you... a form of him dominating you indirectly. BTW, your being locked up a month is bad for your prostate health unless you ejaculate some way. Basically you need to empty your prostate or you will increase the risk of Urinary tract infections. I heard there are some studies of monks that total celibacy indicate it may also contribute to prostate cancer. This is per one of my docs when I had a UTI and he prescribed sex and prostate massage to avoid recurrence. If your wife does not want to let you come she should stick a finger in your butt and massage the fluid from your prostate. Or let you out to whack off quickly a couple times a week. Finally for today - women like to "belong" to a strong (powerful) man. That can translate to a disinterest in sex with other men. At least until they are very secure in the relationship or bored.... My sub is married but hubby is not very assertive about having sex. So when I expressed concern that he might have an affair and so bring an STD to us - and expressed a small amount of jealousy - my sub told me she stopped having sex with him. That was about 11 years ago. (And yes, I am going by what she said - you have to believe in something - I have not had a chance to quiz him.... ). I would like you to observe and report on her interest in others as the relationship with the boss progresses whether it is short term infatuation or long term love. But I seriously suspect that he is training her for a longer term relationship since she does seem quite hot. I also predict that she will do things for him down the road that she would not dream of doing when she started the relationship - or even now - but will after training. Yeah, I get blunt - women are better at saying things gently. I have to work on being to direct and blunt... Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:44 pm marissa Player @softcantfind and @Say_Oy: I fully agree with you. It has been always something I could never agree with the cuckold and to some extent the hotwife lifestyle: the eventuality of the wife becoming submissive to a third while the husband becomes submissive to the wife and/or third. It's rather odd and it seems that, at least on a sexual level, the wife loses respect for the husband while saying "I love you so much" to him as if to tame him. It's only when the mainstream deals with the theme that the husband role is elevated to that of the cool, confident, alpha-male type that's calling the shots and still has his wife completely smitten by his charms. Reality seems very different in most cases. At the end of the day, there's still the Darwinistic race going on. It would be interesting to know how many real good lovers enter into monogamous relationships only to later on delve into swinging, hotwifing/hothusbanding and even cuckolding. Why are "sexually compromised men" so inclined to expose their weakness? In the evolutionary, competitive race, that would be the last thing one would do, right? @GemsHubby, I've read the blog, or at least the recent entries. If not for your thread here, I would call it fake. It's so unreal to the point that its plot could easily had been taken out of several stories of the same genre published on lit and other websites. Two key observations from the website and your posts here. Firstly, I've never read a post expressing her love, actual towards you. At best she's happy when you accept but she teases/offends/lashes out (whatever you sensibilities towards her words incline you to think about it) at you whenever you follow her script . Secondly, there''s the caging you become you don't like her lover. That makes the act belong to the realm of physical punishment/domestic (psychological) violence. She's not doing it to enhance your experience, even in a D/s scenario; she's doing it out of spite and in order to conditioning you like you train a pet. You've given consent, I believe, but from this observer POV, there any positives (for you) in your situation. If fact, it might be a bit childish but I would stop reading her blog altogether as there's no real intimacy with you about her exploits any more. You're just another follower, the best fan who gets to be her personal toy. With this said, you married and entered the lifestyle with her and you've doing it for years. You must obviously get something out it. The thing is, your words don't reveal a very happy man and you wife's words and actions don't reveal a woman who respects and loves her husband - actions speak a lot louder than words. If possible try to address this issues because, you (you and her) are describing a falling marriage where the wimp husband is made a fool but the cheater and the old but extremely accomplished player, at least in the art of seduction, god knows whose ass he had to kiss to get where he is now, though that's an important skill on its own. Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:44 pm wmraim Experienced Gema used to answered my questions on her blog, but no longer. Emotions do change and there is no way to be sure, but right now there is no doubt both Gema and Daniel are each other's number one love, by far. If Daniel doesn't screw up in the next week (especially about the ski trip) he could be back in business. But he lacks the discipline and hasn't shown her sufficient compassion or trust. Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:10 pm I have to say that her apparent behavior might be all my fault. Back in time, I discovered that I loved NOT being in control. Before hotwifing, I have been rather the dominant one (not sexually, just normal relationship). But I discovered that not only I love her to be with other men, but that I especially do so when she just does what she wants, when it is her who takes the initiative rather than me encouraging her or knowing at every moment what she was doing. I told her once that I preferred if she held back some information, that she didn't need to tell me all of her plans beforehand and that even afterwards, I like to be teased with bits of information that I will know over time, at a time of her choosing. I also love the humiliation part, like when she compares me with her lovers and calls me small dick or whatever. But as it is usual with cuckolding, all this brings up a set of contradicting emotions. I love it and hate it at the same time. I like it when she humiliates me, but I hate it also. I guess that if I didn't hate it, it wouldn't really feel humiliating at all. I think she has just taken the next level, bringing up something new. She has never gone this extreme, but I think she does it largely for my benefit. But she is smart, she knows that if she told me "love, I am only doing this for you, I don't mean to call you small dick in reality" (just an example), it just wouldn't work out. The thing is that she has taken several new steps at the same time, which really are feeling awkward: an older man fucking her, she doing it for money, she being extra humiliatrix and she being extra "I take the initiative, I know what I am doing". How much of this is pure roleplay for my benefit and how much is due to being really into it? I don't know. Could I take her aside during a timeout? Yes, but that would be "metagaming", it would break the spell. And as much as I dislike some aspects, I do also love some others. After all, she is my domme and I am her sub (kind of). Isn't it her "obligation" and right to bring me to the limit and expand it? I could say my safeword of course, but as I said before, that would break the spell and I would deprive me from going deeper into my sub self. And I would possibly also prevent her from exploring this side of her sexuality. Again, this doesn't mean that I like the situation completely (otherwise, I wouldn't have posted my worries here). It just means that by writing and reading your answers, I am trying to find a better way of digesting it. After all, this is the cuckold sub-forum, not the hotwife sub-forum, isn't it? There is a slight difference between both. I do completely trust her. As about our relationship, we love each other. But her blog is about cuckolding and I don't expect her to post "love letters". It was meant as a way of teasing the audience in the first place. But then she (was it she or was it Gerardo?) had the idea to take one more step and restrict my information to what she is posting. I think that was quite smart of her, and I love it and hate it at the same time, but it is in accordance to the rules we agreed, even before we started the femdom part of the hotwife-cuckold relationship. I am not completely happy; it does bother me. But I am not unhappy. There is much more going on in our marriage, behind the scenes, which she doesn't talk about on her blog and which I haven't mentioned here. We talk a lot about ourselves. We kiss and caress each other (being in chastity just outs one specific way of sex, but there is much more. It actually heightens the other forms). The only thing she doesn't allow me is to ask for more details about Gerardo or to express my concern about him and her selling her body to him. But again, I could use the safeword and step out of play. Having said this, I do see the risks Say_Oy so brilliantly explained. The possibility of her becoming his sub, rather then just his whore freaks me out and it does it because it turns me on and scares me at the same time. She has been submissive with her first bull, but Say_Oy is going beyond being submissive to actually becoming his submissive, which is different. And she does have a tendency of developing emotional attachments - which I again love and hate at the same time - but this has never questioned our feelings for each other and our stability as a couple. But it's playing with fire. Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:24 pm This is moving fast. We had an unexpected development today: Her boss has invited her to skiing to the Swiss Alps this afternoon! She didn't say yes to him immediately, because she wanted to talk to me first. She didn't ask me for permission either, but that's because she is my domme and it wouldn't be appropriate. But she did want to feel me out. I told her I needed to think about it and that she should let me take a walk to meditate: When she told me Gerardo's proposal, the words of Say_Oy resounded in my head again. But, should I tell her to drop it? I know she wants it. I travel enough for business reasons and I am fed up with traveling. I rarely take her somewhere. If he is her sugardaddy, isn't that one of the benefits having one? If I told her no, would she possibly resent it, even if she honestly tried not to? Does it turn me on knowing that he will be fucking her the whole weekend? Hell yes, as a cuckold yes, even though I wished he were a young stud. But then if he were about her age and rich, that would really scare me off. Thinking it that way, I guess it is better that he is old. So when I came back from the walk, I decided to encourage her to go, if she wanted (which she did). I think having said no, would have been the worst option. Now, encouraging is a risky option also, but I think it is the least bad one. She is living her fantasy as a paid whore (not a street-whore open to every man, just a sugargirl for one daddy). She started hotwifing just to fulfill my fantasy. I think I can take one for the team even though I don't like Gerardo and I don't like her doing it for money. Now, it is going to be funny, because she has absolutely no clue about skiing. But I guess she will find a way to compensate him. wmraim Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:20 pm I think you should have left it totally up to her. Let her weigh the issue and have her know the consequences of her decision affect your feelings . But yes is a good decision. She doesn't get out much because you don't like to travel. You are getting used to Geraldo fucking her. After a while this fucking will be the same as in a marriage, even now it's not a great turn on for her. So far there is no sign Geraldo is sweeping her off her feet. I certainly agree with the others, you must stay vigilant. Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:32 am Wife is back from her ski weekend with her boss. She was very happy and apparently she had a great time. I can only infer this based on how she looks and smiles, because she still won't tell me any other details than what she posts on her Tumblr. They left on Friday and on Thursday he fucked her in the office during lunch break. She came home early with a creampie for me. I knew what she expected. She loves it when I adore her with my caresses, kisses and licks when she comes back from a date, especially while I am still locked. I feel very submissive when I do this for her, which is a warm feeling that I usually like. However, this time it was mixed with bitterness, as if I was failing her somehow. Am I failing her in the role of the provider and is he taking over this role. She made me write her a message to her Tumblr, which she published. She asked me to write down this experience and to thank Gerardo, as if he was reading this blog (which she neither denies nor confirms). That was quite humiliating. She brought me her soiled panties from her trip and put it on my nose. Then she unlocked me and fucked me. It was sooo good to be able to reclaim her after her weekend trip. On the downside, shortly after cumming, when the libido is down, I was wondering what the hell I was doing. I was doubting if I was doing right leaving her in his hands. Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:34 am She also posted that Gerardo is into photography and that he took some sexy pictures of hers in the snow. I am astonished that she let him do this, as she usually is very shy about pictures where she could be recognized. Of course, I don't know if they were just body shots or if they included her face as well, I can only imagine her posing for him. Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:58 pm Disturbed. She said that they shared the cottage with two other couples he was friends with. First night they sentó to diner together and she was wearing this extremely sensual dress she wore on the business trip with him. It's see-through, except on the strategic places. It was probably over the tone, but he loved it. Second night he and her staid in the cottage. They fucked in the living room, next to the lit chimney. I can imagine how romantic this is. I am disturbed because she didn't use the word fuck, she said that he made love to her (she put a question mark after the l word). She also said the he looked revitalized, ever since he is hitting her unprotected pussy and that she was amazed how agile he was with the skis. She ended her rapport saying that he was her boss in a double sense (at work and I bed?) but that he seemed more than that to her, that he considered him a friend. Mari55 - Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:05 pm Player inNC wrote: continue worshipping her & him by letting them fuck and do what you do best.his wife may still love him but she doesn't respect him as a man because her boss has taken up that roll. Put her blog on Google translate and read some of the latest rounds of Q&A. One of them is very tellingly: “hubby's pleasure is my enjoyment and his pain/torment”. The person questioned if she was going to stop telling hubby she loved him and start actually doing loving acts for him instead of messing with his mind (“tormenting him”). Her answer was the one above. GemsHubby knows her better than we do. One can say that the woman was honest and forthcoming because she stated what she wants from her husband. Now, it's up to him to figure out if his needs can meet hers. Since he's still married and has been playing a role “in the game”, one can say he's getting his needs - at least some of them - are being met. Now he needs to figure out if can leave without ALL of his needs being met and I believe that's the reason for the thread to exist in the first place. With that conundrum I can't really help since I've always walked out from relationships where my needs weren't being met and my current (and longest relationship) has only been going for 2 years. Such a short relationship doesn't have the same emotional and financial investment as a long(ish) term marriage as GemsHubby and Gemma have. Hence, I can understand that's very difficult to decide if a relationship like that is worth saving or if it's just better to end it and cut the losses. Reading a lot of threads here made me realise that my go-to option is not always possible nor is the best decision. There are many different paths to happiness. Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:46 pm Concerned and stressed. Wife came home today early from work. She was in a strange emotional state, which is unusual as she normally is a very calm person. She was having all kinds of feelings, many of them contradictory. She was stressed, excited, nervous, bothered, disappointed, anxious, aroused. All at the same time. I have never seen her this way before. She said that we needed to talk, that something had happened. She was going to tease her Tumblr followers by telling them what happened in pieces along the day. But she didn't want me to wait that long to know it, she wanted to tell me immediately. She was doing a long introduction and wasn't getting to the point. This to a certain degree is typical in her, but in this case I was certain that she was teasing me, but that at the same time, she was searching for the right words and mindset. I was increasingly growing anxious. Yesterday (Monday) her boss had given her a day off, after their skiing trip. So today was the first day she met him after the trip. He was very stressed and concerned, even depressed. Her co-workers told her that he had had a meeting with this partner again and that the situation was critical because the company was not performing as it should. The partner was putting a lot of pressure on him and everybody was very concerned about their job safety. She said that she then went into his office, locked his door and silently crawled under his desk. She was giving him a blowjob to help him relax, but he stopped her in the middle. He apologized for unbuttoning her blouse before the meeting with the client during their first business trip to Barcelona. He said that this hadn't been correct and that he felt that they were now in a different place and that he wouldn't do it again. He said that it was his fault doing it and that he was to blame with what happened afterwards. The company is low on contracts. This customer is vital to them, but the contract keeps on slipping from one month to the other. He has been trying to compensate it with other contracts, but mostly unsuccessfully. He said that he had the feeling that the client was delaying the signature, coming up with excuses for not signing. He said that it was probably his fault, but that he thought that the client wanted something more, that she had caught his eye. He asked her to go to Barcelona and "negotiate" during dinner the signature! So now its called "negotiating". He was clearly pimping her out! My wife said that she felt smashed and aroused at the same time. She said that she accepted his proposal, because she wanted to help him and she knew how much he and her co-workers needed this deal. She said that this was going to be very difficult for her. Yes, she felt excited. But she also felt sold out. It was being very difficult for her, but yet she wanted to do it. And she needed me to support her in this, she really needed to feel my love, my assurance. I have said it before, I am her cuckold and I usually really like being it. I like it when she dares new things, when she is slutty, when she tells me how good her lovers are, how they kiss and fuck her and how they make her do things for them which she hasn't ever done for me. I like not being in control. Back in time, I proposed her that she should just do whatever she wanted, that I didn't want any rules to inhibit her, that it excited me that she was free to do things without being concerned of whether I would approve or not. And she is exactly doing this, so I can't really complain. But some things are rather extreme. I can't use the term off-limits, because we agreed on no limits. But sometimes I wonder how much I can handle. Sometimes I am asking myself if I have created a monster when I begged her to become hotwife and when I proposed her to have no limits, no rules. A lovely and slutty monster, so exciting... but yet so frightening or unsettling. She wasn't asking me for permission. As I said above, our rules are that there are no rules. She doesn't need my permission for everything. She was asking me for emotional support. She really needed to feel me close, to have me on her side, on her team. As much as it unsettles me, as much as I don't like her to do it for money and much less to having her pimped out by her boss, I decided to give her my full support. She is my wife, my life partner, my soul mate. She wants to do this and I will help her. I will handle my own feelings, but I will make her feel supported, I want to make it as easy as possible for her. But yet, I hate her doing this. I hate thinking that she is doing it for him or that he is tricking her. She will take the train to Barcelona tomorrow afternoon and she will have "dinner" with this customer, hopefully securing with her skill the contract. I think I am feeling like her: smashed and aroused. I don't know yet which feeling is stronger Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:07 pm Thank you for your kind and wise words. But this is a female-lead relationship. It's not BDSM style, it is just our understanding of her taking the lead. How can I as a submissive impose any rules on her if she is leading? Of course there are rules like she cannot damage me physically or emotionally, etc. but I don't think I can or should impose any rules on her sexual relationships with other people, that would be topping from the bottom. In the end, I think that trust is more important than rules. Having said this, I feel very uncomfortable with the situation, but I guess that following my own logic, I should just accept it and cope with it, as the submissive cuckold I am. I am just trying to understand and digest my own situation and writing and conversing with you guys helps me. I wonder, are there any other submissive cuckolds that have no say on what wife does and that have suffer on occasion because of the sex partners she has chosen? Or am I the only one? Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:22 pm wmraim wrote: Is she obligated to serve clients? Those pictures of Gema naked, could they have been sent to the client, for client approval? Geraldo is a shrewd business man. Instead of buying the Barcelona client an expensive escort, he uses cheap employee labor, saving lots of money. If Gema is successful, she deserves much more money that what she is paid. Damn, I haven't thought about this! Yes, that would fit this devil! I am wouldn't be surprised if he had it planned all way long. If he did that, then he is not trustworthy. But I don't know how to tell Gema this, without annoying her and being accused of don't liking her "lover" or sugardaddy or whatever and just being jealous. I still remember what happened to me the last time I raised my objections. As of cheap labor, I don't think so. She is being paid very well. She is doing her normal job and also the extras, but payment is good. It would probably cheaper to hire a professional prostitute. I don't think it is about saving money. But who knows, it might indeed be cheaper as she gets paid anyway and and prostitute needs to be hired and paid in addition. But still, I don't think it is about saving money. And I don't think the client wanted a prostitute. If he wanted this, he could have hired one himself. No, I think some people just get off exerting their power and getting sexual favors. This is more exciting to them than to just pay a prostitute. Gerardo falls into this category and his client probably as well. leander99 - Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:02 am Wow, it sounds to me like your wife is being setup. The whole event is probably just another game to get her to take another big step. One big test to see how far she will go, simultaneously also seducing her to take another huge step towards where he wants her. She will end up having sex with many different men, on his request, many many times over. He will profit from it, one way or another. This is just the first time of many. If he doesn't own her already, he will tomorrow. That is NOT a good thing. I wonder where this goes, but I dont think it is wise to go there. Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:52 pm She is traveling to Barcelona to meet the client this night. Her boss gave her yesterday a dress and the underwear he wishes her to wear. She isn't naive, but then, sometimes she is a bit... She didn't seem to expect that she would be asked to also pleasure clients. She is seeing this as a one-time thing, just to please and help Gerardo. Really, I think she might be a bit naive here. She says that she feels sold and prostituted, but that at the same time she also feels strangely aroused. She feels proud that she will be able to help Gerardo. And she seems to be fond that Gerardo's partner will have to apologize and take back his offensive words towards Gerardo and her co-workers, when the customer signs the contract. But she is scared that she might not be up to the expectations. She says that she is only a normal forty year old woman. "So many thoughts". How do I feel about it? As I said before, my wife asked me to support her decision, to make it easier for her as this was already going to be tough. She wants to do it and if that's what she really wants, I will give her my full support. I will not nag around, showing my discomfort. At least not with her, but allow me to use this forum as an outlet for me stress. So how do I feel? I feel strangely aroused as well. And I will feel proud of her when she comes back with the signed contract. She is so brave! And in the end, in her own way, she will have secured an important contract for her, for Gerardo and for the company, which other more experienced executives failed to achieve. But at the same time, I feel disgusted. Gerardo is playing her tricks on her, maneuvering her to where he wants. It doesn't matter if she is totally naive about it or if she is completely aware of what he is doing. In the end, Gerardo is winning and I don't like this. I don't like him. And if I think that he might have taken the pictures this weekend to bait the customer... :twisted: If I think that he just took her skiing this weekend to deepen the bond between them so that he could ask her this favor... :evil: She is still in charge, but the words of some you guys resonate in my head and I am frightened about the power he might gain over her. Not that I think she might leave me, I totally trust her and I am convinced that our love and marriage is much stronger than that. It is just that it displeases me thinking about how he manipulates her, regardless of whether she knows and plays along or she being naive and ignorant and not seeing it coming. Is this heightened, extreme cuckold angst I am feeling? It is good to write here, write down my thoughts, process them and read your responses. Many warnings, some people recommending me to continue, some making me feel that I am not unique, that they have been in a similar position too. All good, all useful. Thanks a lot, guys! P.S.: I don't know how I will survive this night, knowing that she is being whored out for him. I don't know if I should stroke my dick to death or bang my head against a wall until unconscious. My consolation is that she will tell me what is going on if time and opportunity permits it. She said that she will continue to limit me to Tumblr with regards to Gerardo, but that this client wasn't Gerardo and that she would keep me promptly informed and with all details. Say_Oy Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:18 am Sounds to me like you might feel threatened because she has emotions for her boss. Past lovers were exciting because they were young but it was a physical thing. This seems more emotional with a physically unattractive man... well, unattractive to you by your definition. Obviously your wife finds him attractive, and more importantly, attractive emotionally. How much of your angst is due to your own bias? How old is he and how unattractive is he really? If he can ski there is a good chance that he is not totally out of shape. You express disgust that she is having sex with an old wrinkled dried out man... but have you actually met him? You are disgusted by his age and looks - but sex for men is more physical then for women. She is seeing someone who is powerful, rich, romantic, despite his age still horny and most of all, very interested in her sexuality. He is sweeping her off her feet. You were comfortable when her interest was physical, but now you are threatened emotionally. But can you accept that this is what she wants and that she likes it? What are you really worried about with this relationship? I don't know Spanish but I google translated part of Gemas post and got the impression that she is going to Barcelona on a business trip - and is expected to seduce the important client into signing a contract. Essentially, I am under the impression that her boss is prostituting her. He has really tapped into her submissive service mindset and owns her. You need to figure out if you can deal with that (some cucks love the idea). Your wife seems to be turned on by it - at least from the pictures and what I could make out of her post... But you may need to have a reminder talk with her - even if she is on the pill if she has sex with the client she has to worry about STDs and should use condoms. You may need to take her on a long vacation and get her away from her boss for a while to help clarify her thinking and your relationship. Or acknowledge her boss as master to both of you... and figure how you yourself can serve. Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:55 am Some answers to your questions and comments: Quote: How much of your angst is due to your own bias? How old is he and how unattractive is he really? If he can ski there is a good chance that he is not totally out of shape. You express disgust that she is having sex with an old wrinkled dried out man... but have you actually met him? You are disgusted by his age and looks - but sex for men is more physical then for women. I have never seen Gerardo. I only have my wife's description and his LinkedIn profile picture. He is in his early sixties, but he looks much older than that. There are some silver wolf men out there, but physically, Gerardo is not one of them. I can't imagine what she finds attractive of him or how she is able to ignore his physical appearance and focus on other things. Wife said that Gerardo was good at skiing. Honestly, that doesn't really mean anything, because she has no clue about skiing. She would find the smallest tricks outstanding. But yes, it seems that he his physical condition is better than how you would judge him by his looks. Quote: Sounds to me like you might feel threatened because she has emotions for her boss. Past lovers were exciting because they were young but it was a physical thing. This seems more emotional with a physically unattractive man... well, unattractive to you by your definition. Obviously your wife finds him attractive, and more importantly, attractive emotionally. I can't deny that. I actually think you got exactly to the point or at least one of them. Quote: You were comfortable when her interest was physical, but now you are threatened emotionally. But can you accept that this is what she wants and that she likes it? What are you really worried about with this relationship? I have decided that I will be a good cuckold hubby and support her in this, because this is what she wants. I will stop complaining to her, but yet, it will take a while until I can convince myself and until then, I still need this forum as an escape valve. I am worried because with other lovers, it has been about sex and physical attraction. With her first lover, there has been also a strong emotional connection. At that time, I was too naive and inexperienced and I let myself be taken away by the cuckold addiction. I craved for that emotional bond between her and her lover at that point of time. She really got caught in a big NRE. But we did well as a couple, it made us stronger. I think this is when she started to value the emotional connection on top of the sexual part. But at least, I was still her hubby, her provider, her home. This is where I feel threatened by Gerardo, because he has partially taken over the role of the provider. Fortunately, I don't think she would ever leave me for him. Besides the age gap, we are strong as a couple. But this doesn't make it easy, it just avoids that I go totally nuts. Quote: I don't remember is he married? He has been married twice, divorced once and separated once. Interestingly, my wife once commented that he was surprisingly unexperienced sexually. I guess that she meant that he was fairly classical. Probably he is amazed by her sexual prowess. He must have been in really boring marriages. Quote: The way this scum ( I can't call him a man) treats other human beings in the time we live in is disgusting and in the end he will get his. While I do dislike Gerardo, I have to step in and defend him on this accusation. Gema would be enraged hearing you call him scum, and to be fair, he probably isn't. He is treating her well, at least in her point of view. And he really hasn't taken advantage of his position as a boss. Gerardo and Gema were put in contact by a former lover exactly for the purpose they agreed on. She knew well beforehand that she would be her bosses slut. She had been searching for a normal, acceptable paid job, although unsuccessfully, but she wasn't that desperate that she forcefully had to take this opportunity. This is something she wanted to do and the money was rather just a trigger or excuse. Having said this, I still dislike him. I am just trying to be fair (and if it is true that he took the pictures to bait the client, then he truly is scum, but I don't have any evidence yet). Quote: If she comes back with a signed contract, her worth and hence her power could become relative. Yesterday night's "negotiations" with the client seem to have been successful. She is heading now to his office to get the signed paper. I hope she hasn't been tricked and it wasn't all for nothing. Quote: I don't know Spanish but I google translated part of Gemas post and got the impression that she is going to Barcelona on a business trip - and is expected to seduce the important client into signing a contract. Essentially, I am under the impression that her boss is prostituting her. He has really tapped into her submissive service mindset and owns her. Quick recap: This pas weekend they went skiing to the Swiss alps. Apparently, it has been quite romantic. Her boss gave her Monday off to recover and as a bonus for being the weekend with him. On Tuesday, while she was giving him a blowjob in the office to relax him (lots of stress because business is not going well), he told her that he needed her help. He said that they needed this contract but that the client had been delaying it apparently without reason. He suspected that the client wanted a special treat and that it was all his fault because he had unbuttoned her blouse prior to entering the meeting. He apologized for that and told her that he shouldn't have done it and that in fact, their relationship was now in a different place and that he wouldn't have done it today. But nevertheless, he asked her to give the client a special treat. She continued sucking him until completion and accepted to go to Barcelona to meet with the customer, which she did yesterday. She is coming back today, hopefully with the contract. So yes, he is prostituting her and she has eagerly complied. Quote: You need to figure out if you can deal with that (some cucks love the idea). Your wife seems to be turned on by it - at least from the pictures and what I could make out of her post... Yes, she is excited by this. But also frightened at the same time. It's kind of funny that she is having these contradictory feelings, because that's just how the cuckold angst works. The same as her, I am aroused by it, but at the same time, I am repelled. Quote: But you may need to have a reminder talk with her - even if she is on the pill if she has sex with the client she has to worry about STDs and should use condoms. She has this clear. She usually only has sex with condoms. The exceptions are when she has a long-term relationship, with trust and with proof (at least at the beginning) of being STD free. Gerardo met those conditions and therefore goes bare (it was an agreed requirement in their "contract", but she seems to enjoy it). She won't go (hasn't gone) bare with the client. Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:37 pm Wife is back home and in my arms. She is in a difficult emotional state. She is happy, but at the same time, she isn't. Her mood oscillates over time. I think this has been a major challenge for her, something that she wanted to proof herself that she could do it. She has succeeded, and now she has to digest it and accept that she has been whored out. She had dinner with the customer in a high-class restaurant. She was wearing the dress and lingerie her boss gave her for this purpose. It was a black dress with some strategic transparencies. A bit daring, but not slutty, actually quite elegant and sexy. The bra was a shelf bra: it lifts her tits but lets them exposed. She said that her nipples were poking through the dress. After dinner, they went to her hotel room and had sex. Fortunately, she has decided that she would give me the details directly instead of through tumblr, because it doesn't involve Gerardo. She said that sex was passable. Not really good, rather to the negative end of the spectrum. The client is in his fifties, not great looking, but way better than Gerardo, although that doesn't seem to me to be a big merit. So after dinner he drove her to her hotel and his hands were all over her body, already in the lift to the hotel room. She sucked his cock for a while and then he made her put a condom on him and he fucked her. They did doggy and cowgirl and then he came missionary-style. After relaxing for a bit, he left. She admitted that it excited her doing it to get the contract. She had more fun because of this than because of the raw sex. She said that all through dinner her heart was racing. She felt proud that she did it, both for her and for Gerardo who would be happy. I got to reclaim her on Thursday night. She has been clinging to me more than usual and mostly just wanted to be in my arms. It's been even more so after she came back from work this afternoon. But let me go back to the "story". After she had sex with the client on Wednesday night, she went to his office on Thursday morning to get the contract signed and bring back the papers to Gerardo. Her boss had instructed her to wear the same garments that she wore when they visited this customer in December. He also asked her to unbutton her blouse the way he did it back then, prior to entering the office. But this time, she was wearing this shelf-bra instead of a full bra. I find it quite humiliating, but the customer had seen and fondled her tits anyway the night before, so there wasn't really much more to lose. She complied. The customer signed the papers, but before doing so, he asked her to drop her panties. Again she complied and handed them over to him; I guess he wanted some kind of souvenir. Afterwards he signed the contract, gave it to her and she rode back in the train pantyless. The next is from ther blog, as this involves directly Gerardo and she won't disclose it to me other than this way: This Friday morning, she went to work with the papers and handed them to Gerardo, who was eagerly waiting for them. He was extremely happy and she felt proud. He has promised her a sales commission and then on a personal level, he gave her a gift: a nice choker. Afterwards he asked her if she knew what he would like now. Apparently she knew it very well, because she crawled under his desk and... Well, I am going to have her this weekend fully for me. This has been very emotionally intense for both of us. I am going to make sure she feels safe and supported in my arms. I am worried, but she doesn't need my worries now, she needs a loving and supportive husband and I am going to give it to her. Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:48 pm I wasn't aware that wife had posted an update, wraim alerted me. It explains why she has been cuddling In my arms the whole weekend, with ups and downs in her mood. Friday, after she delivered the contract to her boss, he asked her if he knew what he wanted at this moment. She knew and crawled under his desk. While she was blowing him, he received a phone call. From what I could deduce based on her Tumblr post and her reaction when I carefully and softly tried to inquire, it was this Barcelona customer. In summary, he wants to make sure that his account is well attended and Gerardo agreed that she would go there once a month. He didn't say any names, but it seems clear who he was referring to. If my extrapolations are true, then what some of you have predicted has come true: he is whoring her out. So this hasn't been a one time thing. I don't know yet if she has accepted or not. I think she has been thinking this over the whole weekend . But as you know, whatever involves Gerardo, she will only tell me vía Tumblr. I can only infer based on her blog, her reactions and mood. At this point I don't know what will happen. I am not so much concerned about her meeting this customer regularly than about the apparent fact threat Gerardo has gained so much influence over her that she might willingly allow him to pimp her. How has he done this? What else is to come? I am scared. Say_Oy - Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:54 pm So, looking at the pictures she is posting she is very into being his sex slave. She seems to identify with prostitutes on Flower street and I love the doggy and under the table pictures. Very expressive. He asks her what she wants... and she responds NOT by asking for gifts, a higher position or even fucking him for her orgasm but by sucking his dick for his pleasure. She admits that her mind was in turmoil after the trip to fuck the client... but she does not object and continues sucking his dick as he is telling the client that she will be visiting monthly. He is now her master and her pimp. She is focused on his pleasure and pleasing him no matter what it takes and her own orgasms / pleasure are not important - they are incidental to what she is doing to serve Him (Gerardo). This is actually similar to my sub's motivation. While she really loves getting fucked, preferably doggy style, she is there for my pleasure. We do what I want to do and she gets her satisfaction from my pleasure, even when I am in a sadistic mood. Luckily our moods usually match well. Also, he gave her a necklace and told her to wear it all the time... just like a BDSM slave collar, though possibly more publicly acceptable than a dog or black leather collar. Very classic Dom/Sub behavior. I am curious how much of a bonus your wife gets. A $1,000 bonus on a $500,000 contract does not seem like a lot. Also, I have a feeling this is going to escalate. Gerardo will complain that when she is away no one is satisfying him - and will want her to find him a second girl to satisfy him ... :) well, it may be a few months and a couple more new clients before that happens... Or he will tell her she needs to find a second girl to take over her sexual duties to the clients, but that he needs to test her and "train" her... How much will your wife participate in those acts will really define the depth of her submission. Quote: Also, he gave her a necklace and told her to wear it all the time... just like a BDSM slave collar, though possibly more publicly acceptable than a dog or black leather collar. Very classic Dom/Sub behavior. It is more a choker than a necklace. It's actually quite nice and I couldn't see anything indicating BDSM, other than the analogy you commented. Couldn't it be just a present with no other meaning behind it? It is strange that she commented that he didn't seem to be very experienced sexually, but that now all of the sudden he would be a Dom instead. I wonder if we are over thinking it, or if he was hiding his real motivations and experience so far. Or maybe it was true that he wasn't very experienced but that he is awakening and learning fast. I don't know what to think. BTW, she hasn't been wearing it during the weekend. But I just looked into her drawer and it's not there anymore. I think she might have take it to work. Will she really wear it all day, every day for now on or only when she is with him? Or maybe she did only take it to return it to him? Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:16 am Apparently she has accepted his proposal to service the client once a month. I believe she has been thinking this over the whole weekend, which was the reason why he wanted my to hold her. I am her pillar and she needed a solid place to stand. That's how I interpret her behavior this weekend. For her ongoing efforts with this client, she will be getting a company car. It is strange that she didn't tell me anything during the weekend and it also saddens me. I am the car man whereas she has really no clue about cars. But she didn't ask me for advice. She said that she has been thinking this over and that finally she decided to got with Gerardo's suggestion, both in type of car and color. It will be a Class A Mercedes in red. Apparently she has sealed the agreement with another blowjob under his office table. She has posted a picture with cum of her lips and her tongue reaching out to lick it up. It's not a picture of her, of course, but it could very well be. I can visualize doing it. She is driving me crazy. P.S.: Company car is in addition to the bonus she will get for getting the contract signed. I can't dispute Gerardo's logic: getting the contract is a one-time thing and she will get a one-time bonus for it. "Assisting" the client on a monthly basis is an ongoing thing and she gets an ongoing benefit. Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:58 am D+D wrote: I've got no criticism or advice or congratulations or anything like that, but I look for your updates each time I log in. I don't see an accident waiting to happen nor do I perceive myself as a cheerleader. Instead, I'm a student of this lifestyle, learning how different people handle different situations. Yours isn't unique, but it is very well told and you do a great job of communicating your feelings. I don't know for sure, but I don't think that I would be uncomfortable in your shoes. I do have one question tho, if you set her down and sincerely ask her to quit her job and walk away from her boss, his power, and his money, do you think she would? That's a difficult question and I honestly don't know the answer. Is it just about quitting her boss? Or is it about the whole lifestyle. Is there a difference between both? Do you think I could ask her to quit her boss, but keep the lifestyle and just take a different lover? I think both are the exact same thing. Her power to chose her lover and do with her sexuality whatever she wants is part of this lifestyle. I could not tell her no and wish to continue with the lifestyle. I think this would be very unfair and selfish from my side. Of course, if I saw immediate danger, then I would get very serious and give a crap about the lifestyle, but the fact is that I am just feeling uncomfortable. Sexually, she leads the way and I follow. I still haven't answered your question about whether or not she would quit if I asked her, but that's because I don't envision this scenario. I think it is very unfair from husbands to beg their wifes into hotwifing, asking her to take the lead but then reserving a veto because they feel unconfortable with a certain lover. It is her body, her sexuality. You can either control your jealousy or you can't and if you can't, you shouldn't enter this lifestyle. Wife's are doing a big emotional investment and they deserve better than having to opt out because hubby got cold feet. If I need to whine - and I do need it - I look for an outlet like this forum. I don't ask her to stop. I care for how she feels and the emotions she invest in each relationship. Did this answer your question, at least partially? I didn't confirm nor deny. Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:06 pm D+D wrote: Yes, basically you don't really know or have an idea if she would quit her job if ask. Furthermore, you're never going to ask because you're afraid she might quit the lifestyle which you don't want her to do. I understand because I've been in a similar situation although not as extreme or dramatic as this. I was concerned so I told my wife my frustrations. She said she would quit, but never hotwife again. I told her never mind. I was comforted though because she did offer to quit. Like you my desire for her to be a hotwife outweighed my concerns. I lost lots of control that day. We have very few rules since most of which are for her safety when she's out fucking around. Not exactly. It's not that I don't want to ask because I fear she would quit hotwifing completely. It is that I find it unfair to do so, and that's regardless of possible consequences. I convinced her to start hotwifing and I have committed it. I trust her. She has and is investing a lot emotionally. I trust her in what she does and she trusts me that I won't get angry or get cold feet. I have committed and hence I go through it. I don't do half things. Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:48 am Yesterday morning she blogged from the office. She said that her boss had invited her to lunch and that they would take the afternoon off. This is very unusual because for Gerardo work always comes before fun. She said that most likely he would want her to sleep over and that's what finally happened. He lives close to the office, so this morning she went directly from his house to work. Then she has posted a picture of an amateur hotwife, saying that she might be doing the wrong thing, because if Gerardo saw it, he might leave her for this other wife. Of course she was joking. But it makes me wonder if Gerardo is reading her blog, as someone suggested. I have never been able to find out. I think she is just mind fucking me, but who knows. She has never played that tough with me. I love it and hate it. Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:21 pm Chubby wrote: How has she gotten used to being used by Gerardo for the contract? How does she like the idea of being used monthly by this customer? Does Gerardo regulate your sex life through her at all? She seems to like it being his sugarbaby. I think she is taking this as a challenge. There are elements she likes and others that she had to overcome, but at this stage, she seems to be excited about the whole situation. Same goes about being used by the customer. I think she doesn't like him a lot. Or at least, she said that sex with him was meh, So I don't think he likes being used by this particular person, but she seems to like the idea of the whole situation, where she is being "forced" by Gerardo to do it. No, Gerardo does not interfere in our sex life. He knows that she is married and that I am a knowing cuckold, but he doesn't interact with me in any way. He just accepts that she is married and that's it. Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:33 pm D+D wrote: She must have a wardrobe at his house since she is staying there frequently. Does she have her company car already? It's amazing to me how she tells her story in her blog! If only I could read Spanish! She is definitely playing mind games with you, but also just looking at the picture because I can't read the narrative, I'm thinking she's showing you in her blog too as her rock and source of safety. She obviously enjoys her life now, even one picture shows a prostitute on the street, but she loves you. Ylou give her the freedom and support to have this adventure. Yes, she is getting her doctorate in playing mind games with me. She wasn't that way at the beginning. She was rather submissive and didn't have a rich fantasy (unlike me). But she has developed a lot since I convinced her to hotwifing. I have created a monster, but one that I love and that I feel proud of her and her evolution. Company car will take over a month, they usually don't have it on stock. Definitely not Mercedes, who usually builds on demand. I am not aware that she has a wardrobe at this house. She stays frequently over there, but just for one night mostly. So it's ok that she wears next day the same business clothes. And while she is in the whose, she is mostly naked or in lingerie. Well, I guess the panties don't last long on her. But it's possible that she has a second set of clothes there. It would make sense and I wouldn't be astonished if Gerardo had bought it. But she hasn't told me that, so I can only imagine it as something likely, but no confirmation. Yes, she wouldn't be able to do this without me. That's our role as cuckolds: to be the anchor, the pillar on which our wives can develop and grow. They wouldn't behave as slutty as they do if they didn't have the safety of a loving and supportive husband who is at her side, regardless of what she does and how strongly she messes up. The past weekend she was seeking my care and my support; she didn't say anything but I could feel it. I guess she was thinking about the situation with the customer in Barcelona. She must have thought it would be a one time thing but then found out that Gerardo whored her out. I think she felt partially deceived by him, but at the same time, also partially aroused. After all, she did want this job not just for the money but for the experience of being paid for sex. She wouldn't escort, but having one regular sugardaddy, makes it easier for her. But she had to think if she really wanted this customer to become a monthly requirement. It was her decision and she said yes. Getting the car wasn't the motivation - I think - again it was about the experience. That's what I believe. She didn't tell me, that's just how I read the images of her blog, the way she behaves, etc. Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:49 pm She has started to tell what happened Tuesday night at her bosses house. She hasn't finished the story yet. Again, she is teasing everybody and I am the first on her list. That's what she has revealed so far: They took the afternoon of and went for lunch. She parked in his garage and then they went in his car to a restaurant. His hand was on her knee. The stepped out of the car and he was very gentleman and helped her into her coat. Before entering, he took her hand, they walked a bit and then he kissed her. I guess that in Switzerland they have openly behaving like a couple, but it is the first time they do it in public in Madrid. Also what is strange is that so far, she has always told that she was taking the initiative to kiss him, but now it was the other way around. It could mean nothing, but I wonder if she is saying this on purpose and if there is a hidden message. Back at his house, he asked her to undress, while he poured himself a whiskey and sat back. He stopped her before she took off her panties and told her that she was very beautiful. She flushed. Then he asked her if he could take some pictures of her. She thought of the possibility that he had used the pictures he took of her in Switzerland as a bait for the Barcelona customer, but finally she decided that she trusted him. She agreed and he asked her to fetch him the camera. He took some pictures of her while she was in lingerie, garter, stockings and heels. Then he asked her to remove the panties and he shot again some pictures in the same pose as before. She said that she felt a bit uncomfortable this way, because he wants her to grow a bush and since she has started hotwifing, she has been having the habit of going bald. She doesn't like the bush (she was used to it before hotwifing), but he wanted her natural. By the way, I prefer her bald. He asked her to put on her coat and took some more pictures. Finally he asked her to keep her coat on but to open it in the front and finished taking pictures. He then asked her to fetch the vibrator he had bought for her and which she had used on a previous occasion. She sat down, legs opened and masturbated with it. Each time she was close to orgasm, she had to stop. He repeated the process several times and started asking her about how she lost her virginity (vaginal and anal), her first kiss, etc. All that while she was masturbating. Then he stopped her and asked what her biggest sexual fantasy was. She screamed out: "Fuck me and cum in me!". Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:09 am He asked her to move over to him. He was sitting on the couch, drinking whiskey and smoking a cigar. He touched her sex and verified that she was dripping wet. He told her to undress, because her wetness was soiling her stockings. She put one feet on the sofa and slowly slided down one stocking. Then she did the same with the other leg and put her heels back on. He asked her to masturbate for him with her hand, while she was standing in front of him. She complied, although she knew that he would not permit her to cum. Gerardo offered her his glass of whiskey and told her to drink while she was masturbating. She hates strong alcohol, but yet she did it, sipping slowly on his drink, while at the same time she involuntarily was inhaling the smoke of his cigar. She was close to orgasm, but the dizziness in her head prevented her from cumming. He then asked her to remove her bra, slowly, and her garter as well. She did it. She was standing naked in her heels in front of him. She said that strangely, she felt less exposed now than when she was wearing garter and bra. Gerardo asked her to sit down on his knee. He started to caress her very lightly, which sent sparks through her body. From time to time he touched her clit, which made her charge up again on electrical energy. She moaned as he touched her breasts lightly and her nipples protruded like missiles. He then asked her to sit on top of him and do a lap dance for him. She opened her lags and sat on his lap. She started to move like an exotic dancer, fretting her naked body against his clothed body. He put his hands on her hips, but without forcing her to move; he was letting her take all the initiative. Again, she knew that she wouldn't be allowed to cum this way, but she was satisfied feeling his hard on under his trousers. The situation made her recall her first time she lap danced: I was present at that time. Her first lover took her to a large strip club. He made her hot in the car while I was driving and he continued fondling her in the strip club. Then we went to the VIP area, where a dancer he knew danced for us. Well, not for all of us. She rubbed her body against his and against my wife's body, but I wasn't allowed that pleasure. Her lover had made her promise to do him a special favor, which he would disclose later on. My wife gave him her word, not realizing that he had given him a free check. But she always keeps her word. He was teasing her with making her strip in front of everybody. She was scared, but she would have eventually done it. Fortunately for her, this was not what he wanted...The exotic dancer finished with us and went to dance for two guys in an other place in the VIP area, in front of ours. Her lover than told her that he wanted her to lap dance for him on one of the guys. She didn't need to undress, but she had to rub her body against his until she came. My wife was shocked, but she was already a bit tipsy and wet because he had been teasing her the whole night and she complied. While she was dancing on one of the guy's lap, rubbing her clit against his hard on, the exotic dancer moved from the other guy to her back and slit her dress down, uncovering her tits, which this guy gratefully took in his hands. She ended orgasm on him, as required by her lover. This was the first time I realized how much power a lover could have over my wife. This was her first lover, a very special guy who was into the game of cuckolding. She developed a very high NRE with him. In retrospective, she was in love with him, although in a way that didn't compete with her love towards me. Coming back to Gerardo, he asked her again what she wanted in that moment. And as before, she responded that she wanted him to cum inside her. He took her to the bed room. Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:04 am Good to hear that. The lack of comments during the last week was making me think that people had lost interest in this thread. He took her hand and they went upstairs to the bed room. He told her to undress him. She wanted to do it fast, she wanted to feel him insider her and to cum, but she knew better. She knew that he wanted her to do is slowly. She unbuttoned his shirt, then untied his shoes and took them off, then his socks, his belt, his trousers... and finally his boxers. His hard cock sprang into her face. She said that it is smaller than mine, with similar girth, maybe a bit wider, but nevertheless, at least in that very moment, it was the cock she wanted to feel inside. She didn't want me, she wanted him. She says that her psyche might be twisted somehow, because it was his cock she dreamed of more often than she would admit it to herself. Now, here she is teasing me! Or she is serious? I mean, he is old... Gerardo asked her to lay on her back across the bed. He usually prefers her to ride him or the classic missionary, but this time he had something different in mind. He stepped behind her head. His cock had become soft already - might be how it works with older people when they don't receive constant stimuli. He asked her to get it hard again. She reached out with her lips and tongue and put his semi-soft cock in her mouth and began to suck it. She loves to suck semi-soft cocks and experience how they swell in her mouth. It makes her feel proud about her skills. His cock kept on growing until it didn't fit into her mouth. Gerardo was sticking in and out the tip of his cock. She was already tasting tobacco and alcohol on his pre-semen. She hates these flavors - usually. She reached out with one hand and began masturbating. She was already closed to orgasm, but she knew that he didn't want her to cum yet, not this way. He is her boss, he is paying, so she complied and removed her hand. Gerardo kept on fucking her mouth gently and she licked his cock viciously. She masturbated again and stopped close before orgasm. Apparently this went on for some time. Then suddenly, Gerardo came in her mouth without warning. He filled her throat with his load and it tasted bad as usual. She had to force herself to remove her hand from her sex and stop masturbating. He had told her to not cum. Any other want to hear the rest of the story she has revealed? There is a bit more. Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:56 pm After her boss came in her mouth, he fell a sleep for a short "siesta". But before, he asked her to take a nap with him. However, he told her he had a special fantasy and asked her to make it real. He wanted her to sleep with her head on his lap, with her cheek next to his soft dick. As his cock went soft, the rest of the cum it was holding in its conduits, started to leak out, soiling her cheek and her nose got impregnated with his particular odor. She wasn't able to sleep, as she was still horny because she hadn't cum yet. She suppressed the desire to masturbate while he was sleeping. She knew he wouldn't want it and she complied. After the nap and before going for dinner to a restaurant, they had sex again. And after dinner again. She hasn't revealed yet any details. All she has said is that she was astonished the he acts like rejuvenated. I have said it before, but this seems to be this way since he can cum freely in her pussy. Before, when he had to use condoms, he was a one shot cannon, but now, he cums more than once, if he has the necessary rest period. Finally, someone asked on her blog if she had a replacement set of clothes in his home, because of her frequent nightovers. She doesn't. But she answered this person that it might actually be a good idea. Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:01 pm D+D wrote: Yes. Looking at your wife's blog, it appears that she is requiring you to do household chores and she is denying you sex. It my presumption accurate? If so how long since you've fucked her. It also appears that she craves Gerardo's cock now. :whip: No, fortunately you are not interpreting those images correctly. ;) This was an answer to a poster who inquired about chastity devices and sharing household chores. The reality is that we play sometimes with chastity, but fortunately I am currently not locked. Also, she does most of the chores and I barely help her. Shame on me! When she locks me up, I become more gentle and I do many more chores and I do it lovingly. We had sex this weekend. She loves Gerardo's cock? I don't know how much of that is she playing with my mind or really wanting it. I guess it is both, but I don't know how much of which. Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:18 pm norbertrichard wrote: I can understand the pleasure, and reward that your wife recieves from her boss, and his associates, but other than the money, what reward, or pleasure do you derive from this association? Does she come home, ans screw your brains out, tell you how much she loves you, and appreciates you letting her have this affair? Does she show you that its only you that she cherish's, and has her heart? Is there anything special that she reserves just for you, doesn't sound like it? I would like to hear something that the two of you share, that no one else gets to experience. I don't write about the normal stuff that goes on in our marriage between her and me, because I consider it mundane, and after all, this is a cuckolding blog. I am not sure if people here are interested in hearing that she took me out on for dinner and that she paid (our money belongs to both, but she took out the VISA from her purse). Or that we exchange kisses and hugs, just like any other couple. And we do constantly tell each other that we love each other. When I told her that I didn't want any rules, that I wanted her to be free as a hotwife and I wanted her to surprise me, I only gave her two conditions: first, she needed to get me involved somehow, but she was free to withhold or delay information, and she could have encounters on her own, but that sometimes I would like to watch or at least her telling me in detail o sending me an audio or video of some sort. Well, in the case of Gerardo, she has interpreted getting me involved in a particular way, writing publicly down her experience with him. The second condition was that she needed to remind me often that she loved me, just to make sure I didn't go completely crazy trying to manage my natural doubts and jealousy. The last one wasn't really a condition, just a reminder that I liked to be teased and could take a lot, but that I still needed to feel cherished and that I needed her to step out of the cuckoldress role from time to time. Having said this, although she makes sure that I feel loved, she secures her freedom. She doesn't thank me for letting her live this affair, instead she reminds me that this is her right, because this is the freedom I once gave her and now it was completely up to her to do with it whatever she wanted. We share a profound love, which we feel every day, and that is reserved to just me and her. But if you mean sexually, if she does something with me which she doesn't do with others, well, I have to say the contrary is rather the case. For example, I am rarely allowed to cum in her mouth or take her ass. This is mostly reserved for her lovers. However, I do get the chastity device and the strapon, which is something she doesn't do with her lovers. Does this qualify for you? For me it does, it is special and makes me feel special. I do feel partially humiliated when she takes me with the strapon and tells me that her lovers can take her ass, but not me, but that instead she is taking my ass. But I do feel also very warm in my heart at the same time. Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:35 am Wife came home from the office freshly fucked and with a creampie for me. She said that she actually had to beg Gerardo to fuck her in the office, because he always prioritizes work during working hours. He accepted, but only if she was able to make him cum quickly. Well, apparently she had no problem with it. Before eating her creampie, I had to lock myself up. So now, I am locked again. She says that it is not a punishment, that I have actually been a good boy and she thanks me for this, but that it is good for me. Being locked up actually helped me fulfilling her wish of eating Gerardo's creampie. She says that I secretly love doing it, but I don't. I do not like tasting him, but I do like doing it for her, making her feel like a goddess. There is a difference in that. I have no clue how long I am going to stay locked this time. I feel humiliated but excited at the same time, thinking that I can't fuck her, while her boss and soon this Barcelona client again, will shove their dicks inside her. Archie457 Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:57 pm GemsHubby, Your journey is somewhat similar to mine, with one really significant difference. My wife, too, fucked her boss in a long term affair. Actually, she fucked bosses quite regularly. This particular boss, though, took her on "business trips", including "client development" trips. And he pimped her out to at least one client. But she fell in love with him, and tried to get him to leave his wife for her. That clearly would have included her leaving me as well. He declined, and so the relationship ended. The difference? My wife was cheating, and so very secretive. But I think that difference is determinative. As long as your wife is open with you, and tells you whatever you want to know, you should be fine. If she starts closing up, or being evasive, then it is because she is starting to choose him over you. Just be careful, and I wish you the best of luck. She didn't really cheat on me. Our story started a few years ago, when she gave in to my proposal to become a hotwife. We have both evolved since then and now she enjoys total freedom without any rules. In y case, that's the first time with a boss. She is open with me, but in her own way. With regards to her relationship with her boss, she is limiting me to her tumblr updates. I think she is just teasing me, bringing the game to a new level. But you can never be sure of course. She hasn't received the car yet. I usually takes two or three months, because these manufacturers basically build on demand. In any case, she will continue traveling by plane or high speed train to Barcelona. It's over 600 km away, too much to be done comfortable by car. But you are right, it's a lever he has now: she gets the monthly benefit of a company car as long as she services the customer monthly. He hasn't said this, at least not as far as I know, but the implication is clear. Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:46 am I believe I didn't write about it yet: last week I got my second creampie from Gerardo. I still have issues with that; I haven't had it with other lovers. My penis was locked and she facesitted me. This expression of dominance made it easier for me to accept it and lick her clean. Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:46 am Wife just left towards her work place with a bag. She will sleep today at her bosses home, as requested by him, and head on Tuesday to Barcelona. She will have dinner with him and afterwards... and then on Wednesday morning she will be at his office, reviewing documentation, etc. I don't like it that she will sleep at Gerardo's place before going to Barcelona. I think she should sleep at home, but Gerardo requested this sleepover and she accepted. I am getting used to her sleepovers at his place, but doing it the night before going to the client, just doesn't feel right. I should be the last man she sees before doing this with the client. It feels like she is letting him have too much hold over her sexuality. I am looking forward having her back Wednesday evening. Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:12 am She didn't come back home on Wednesday evening. Instead, she went back to his place from the rail station to pick up her car, but he convinced her to stay over night, saying that it was already late and that in a few hours she had to go to work anyway. He lives close to the office. So now I didn't have her neither before nor after the meeting with the client. This is difficult to digest for me. It's like if he was reclaiming her after the date with the Barcelona client, but that should be my role! Finally she came back home Thursday afternoon and finally I was able to hold her in my arms. She didn't allow me to fuck her though (I am still locked), but I was able to kiss and lick her. Hopefully I am released this weekend. I really need to make love to her, to feel being her man! D+D Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:08 am Her boss wanted to seed her before her seeing the client and reclaim her when she came back. He is slowly, but shrewdly taking dominance and ownership of her. He may be the reason behind you being locked so much. Viewing her blog, it looks as if she's fixated more and more with being her boss's love slave. But the pictures of a beautiful woman with a younger man, I guess you, who is locked, but is holding her and she is wrapped in him should make you feel more secure about all this. You desire to be cucked and she's definitely giving it to you. And, you're probably not the master of your own cock. Say_Oy Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:22 pm GemsHubby wrote: She didn't come back home on Wednesday evening. Instead, she went back to his place from the rail station to pick up her car, but he convinced her to stay over night, saying that it was already late and that in a few hours she had to go to work anyway. He lives close to the office. So now I didn't have her neither before nor after the meeting with the client. This is difficult to digest for me. It's like if he was reclaiming her after the date with the Barcelona client, but that should be my role! Finally she came back home Thursday afternoon and finally I was able to hold her in my arms. She didn't allow me to fuck her though (I am still locked), but I was able to kiss and lick her. Hopefully I am released this weekend. I really need to make love to her, to feel being her man! I can see where her boss, as her Dom/Master, may want to fuck her before and after she does something like whore herself for his gain. Obviously she is making lots of $$ for her boss with her pussy, and even her brain if she is good at her office job. The fact that he has become her master gives him the right and power to claim her at his will. I don't think you can say that you "re-claim" her at this point - I think you get to be her pet that she cuddles to as a break from serving her Master. She is serving in the office and she is serving in the evenings which means she is constantly on call and you are her mini-vacation. But he is the Master and is solidifying his grip on her. Both in turning her on with kink and unconventional behavior - prostitution - and supplementing that with monetary rewards and glamour. I've heard of cuckold couples where the hubby does not get to fuck the wife at all. That is the case with my sub and her hubby - by her choice, (he does not know she is my sex toy). The question for you is "What are your limits?" - At what point does it become unacceptable to you? You may be so turned on by this development that even though it hurts it hurts so good... My suggestion is that you speak with her not from a sub/cuck angle but from a husband/man/parent angle. Yes, Parent. You may need to point out to her some of what is happening and more importantly, how that is affecting you. - Is she able stop or is she so caught up in this that she can't walk away? - Would she be willing to stop to make you happy? Or are you now a footnote in her glamorous life? (And ask yourself it that does not turn you on and if that is not acceptable - if it is acceptable, enjoy.) - Can you set limits on how far this can go? - What if Gerardo tells her to move in with him and serve him full time? - Has she asked Gerardo if he is having sex with another woman... or man? The issue is that if he is, that increases the chance of STDs... - Can you be more directly involved (and do you want to be)? - What if this gets into physical BDSM - bruises, cuts, tattoos. - And do you get consulted about tattoos, piercings or markings? If Gerardo ordered it, would she have his name tatooed on her pussy? - How many "special" clients is she willing to service? - Some of this is driven by her own fantasies and instigation. - Ask her what are her real desires and fantasies? - At what point does she stop being a hotwife and become a sex slave? - How debased does she want to be by Gerardo? Or anyone else? - How much of the situation can she control? - If Gerardo dies from a heart attack would her job continue? - Can she work this into a promotion - What is she doing to ensure future job growth, especially if she quits or gets fired? - Point out to her that men need to ejaculate. Rates of prostate cancer are higher in monks and those who abstain from ejaculation. For your health she needs to let you cum at least once or more per week and 2-3X is better. This is getting too long. The bottom line - you are feeling angst that Gerardo is controlling your wife more and more and taking more and more of her time. It's time you talked with her about your needs and relationship. Point out to her that you both need to get something from this. Simply ignoring your emotional needs is not good, even if you do get a hard on when she sits on your face to make you eat his cum that is not an indication that things are well. But you also have to really know what it is you are willing to accept and where the limits are. Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:57 pm I have been freed for the whole weekend and tomorrow is bank holiday here in Madrid. Gema said I could make love to her as much as I wanted. I am a lucky man! Unfortunately, her period has come faster than expected, so since of today her pussy is off-limits. But I still consider myself lucky. Thanks to all for your comments, I really appreciate reading your feedback. Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:36 pm Insightful thoughts, as usual. I will try to discuss with my wife; for now, see my answers below. Say_Oy wrote: - Is she able stop or is she so caught up in this that she can't walk away? - Would she be willing to stop to make you happy? Or are you now a footnote in her glamorous life? (And ask yourself it that does not turn you on and if that is not acceptable - if it is acceptable, enjoy.) I do think we are both able to stop, but to be honest, it would probably more difficult for me than for her. I would be partially relieved if she broke up with Gerardo, but it would be difficult for me if she abandoned hotwifing completely. I am probably not the only cuck for who this has become kind of an addiction. We have a single bank account. Her money is my money and vice versa; we make no differences. Therefore, her life is not as glamorous as it might sound. Of course, she spends more than she used to, but that is well deserved and by far most of it is being saved for the future. We both know that this won't last forever. For one reason or another, it will end at some point of time. Say_Oy wrote: - Can you set limits on how far this can go? - What if Gerardo tells her to move in with him and serve him full time? We have a daughter who still lives with us. Just for that reason, it is extremely unlikely she would move out of the house. A weekend, a couple of days, yes. But week after week, no. Also, I don't think she wishes to serve him full time. If you like movies, you go to the cinema, but you don't live your life in the cinema. Say_Oy wrote: - Has she asked Gerardo if he is having sex with another woman... or man? The issue is that if he is, that increases the chance of STDs... That was one of the requirements for having unprotected sex: he is not allowed to have sex with other people. Of course, he could cheat on us. That's why the other requirement was to do an STD test every six months. There is still always a risk, but so is car driving. I think it is quite reasonable what we have agreed on. Say_Oy wrote: - Can you be more directly involved (and do you want to be)? I would like to see her in action again, I really miss watching her. But Gerardo is not really into this hotwifing thing. He knows about our lifestyle, but he doesn't understand it and he definitely is not willing to have me around. I think as many vanilla man, he fears something gay could come out. Maybe over time he changes his ideas. I think I mentioned before, that he is not much experienced in sex and is quite traditional. Say_Oy wrote: - What if this gets into physical BDSM - bruises, cuts, tattoos. Definitely no cuts! I am pretty sure Gema would be as vehement as me about it. As of BDSM, I don't know if she really would be into this. Yes, she has a submissive nature which she is exploring with Gerardo, but that does not automatically equal BDSM. Say_Oy wrote: - And do you get consulted about tattoos, piercings or markings? If Gerardo ordered it, would she have his name tatooed on her pussy? I don't think she needs to consult me about these. It is her body and I respect that. If we were not in a female-lead relationship and I wanted a tattoo, I would ask her for opinion, but if she said no and I wanted it, I still would do it, because it is my body. Same applies for her. I don't expect her to get my approval. I generally don't like tattoos, but some of them are sexy. Personally, I find that most of them soil an otherwise beautiful skin, but some of them really enhance and adorn it. But I don't think they are yet at this stage. She is his "personal assistant", not his slave. She is submissive to him, yes, but not to that point, unless she really wanted a tattoo by herself. Say_Oy wrote: - How many "special" clients is she willing to service? Good question and I don't know. I guess the answer is as many as it turns her on, which doesn't mean they turn her on (she didn't have an orgasm during the last encounter, but the whole situation of being pimped apparently does excite her. I am amazed how bold she has become and I feel proud of her. But I wouldn't like her to become an escort. And before someone says that she is already an escort to Gerardo, that's different. I mean, it is not the same as fucking with random men. A sugar baby and an escort are similar in some ways, but different in others. Say_Oy wrote: - Some of this is driven by her own fantasies and instigation. - Ask her what are her real desires and fantasies? All of it is driven by her own fantasies and desire of exploring her sexuality. But this is a difficult topic to talk about. Some fantasies are dark and hidden and you are not willing to unveil them even to your life partner. I do have some fantasies I haven't shared with my wife, or example. So chances are that she won't tell me all of it and I can understand that. I need to find a good way of approaching this subject. A straight question won't help, it needs to be more subtle. Maybe over a cup of wine or two. Say_Oy wrote: - At what point does she stop being a hotwife and become a sex slave? Yes, at what point? At what point is she doing this because she wants it and at what point is she doing it because she thinks she wants it? Say_Oy wrote: - How debased does she want to be by Gerardo? Or anyone else? I am not sure if I got the right meaning of the word debased. Does it equal "worthless"? Or do you mean being corrupted? I don't know what is her limit. But I do think she likes the situation, because he is able to take her into uncharted land and probably none of us - neither her, nor me, nor Gerardo - know how it will look like in a couple of months. Say_Oy wrote: - How much of the situation can she control? - If Gerardo dies from a heart attack would her job continue? - Can she work this into a promotion - What is she doing to ensure future job growth, especially if she quits or gets fired? I think that without Gerardo, she would lose her job quite soon. She is way too overpaid for her official position. Any new manager what review her abnormal salary and probably fire her. But we don't depend on that money. It is a nice extra and we are saving most of it, because we know it won't last forever. I am not sure if she can get a promotion in the company, but it's worth a thought. In any case, she is getting lots of experience (no pun intended), which will be very useful for her future professional career and cv. Say_Oy wrote: - Point out to her that men need to ejaculate. Rates of prostate cancer are higher in monks and those who abstain from ejaculation. For your health she needs to let you cum at least once or more per week and 2-3X is better. 3 x a week? I didn't cum that often before hotwifing. We had sex much less than that. When my bird is in jail, it doesn't mean that it doesn't get released. I oftentimes get to cum about once every two weeks at least, even though afterwards it might mean back to prison. Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:13 pm DCharles wrote: WOW! Just read through this thread and it is HOT!! What an erotic arrangement. I think it is so hot that she makes you taste and eat Gerardo's cum. Something very submissive and hot about it. Especially since you don't care for him and I assume that she knows that. Do you know if he knows that she has you eat his cum from her? Great/hot thread!! I am pretty sure he knows. A couple of weeks ago, she wanted to bring home his first creampie for me. She usually sleeps over and then goes to work from his home, which means that she showers in the morning and washes away all her overnight sins. So if she wanted to bring that creampie home, he had to fuck her in the office, just before finishing work and coming home. But Gerardo is very disciplined with regards of work vs. sex priorities. Or maybe he was just teasing her. He made her beg for him to fuck her and only committed to a quickie. She had to double her efforts and make him cum in a short time, which isn't easy, as he is older. I think he pretty well knew that she wanted to bring me a creampie home and was using this as a lever to tease her Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:06 am I forgot to mention it: last week, before she went to the Barcelona client, she spent the night at her boss' house and he shaved her! Since she became hotwife, she mostly always went with a bald pussy, which I love and most bulls apparently also. However, Gerardo insisted that she didn't shave. He wanted her to be wild down below, which I hate. She let it grow for several weeks. But then last week, he shaved her pussy. Now her pussy lips are cleanly shaved, but she sports a landing strip. I still prefer it bald, but landing strip is much better for me than wild. Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:51 am The customer fucked her twice, but she didn't cum. She came the next day with her boss. The customer also made her give him a blowjob next day in the office, when they were reviewing some paperwork (she doesn't just fuck, she is in charge of the project). She wears the choker usually when she goes to work, but takes it off during weekends. It's not BDSM style, it's just a normal looking piece of jewelry. D+D - Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:43 pm She wears the choker usually when she goes to work, but takes it off during weekends. It's not BDSM style, it's just a normal looking piece of jewelry. The choker may not be bdsm type, but it is a symbol between the two of them that she belongs to him. There's nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is. I think that it's very hot that your wife uses her pussy to make deals. After all she gets rewarded for it. I wouldn't mind for my wife to use her pussy to barter deals if it was necessary. A hotwife just gives it away, what's the difference if she uses it for business? Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:31 pm BallSpanking wrote: So is Gema the company slut now? Can her boss tell her whom to fuck? Is Gema happy with the arrangement? No, she is not the company slut, just her bosse's whore. He can try telling her who to fuck, but she doesn't need to accept it. It is more subtle than that, but apparently her boss knows how to seduce her into doing things for him. It has only been one client and realistically I don't expect more. I don't think it is easy to find managers who have the power to sign a deal and are willing to do it for sex. Also, l guess it is not easy to approach them. But maybe I am just being naïf. Gema is happy with the arrangement. The extra money is welcome, but she is not doing it just for the money. Besides the fantasy of being a sugar baby and being pimped, there must be something about Gerardo which she likes, even though I am not able to grasp it. Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:56 am Wife had an overnight last week again at Gerardo's house. This time she took a suite case with some stuff, since the weekly overnights are becoming a habit. Gerardo freed a full cabinet for her. While she was at this house, Gerardo blindfolded her. He made her prepare his cigar and whiskey blindfolded and he was giving her precise instructions. On Friday, she came back with a creampie for me. She says that it is a gift for me. She asked me to wait at home for her, in my chastity cage and with stockings. I did as she required. But the real gift for me was that I have been allowed free access to her during he weekend. I was supposed to have fee access the previous weekend, but than she had her period. One thing she said: in exchange for the creampie, Gerardo asked her a favor. She hasn't disclosed yet what it will be. It drives me crazy thinking of all the devious possibilities! And all because it is a present for me... which in reality or at least from my point of view it really isn't. Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:41 pm She just disclosed what she had to promise her boss to get the creampie from him "for me". Well, at least I don't have to torture myself trying to imagine what it is, although I am not happy about it: She agreed for another photo session, somewhere under the blue, in the open air. I have to carefully make her reconsider and think about the possibility that he used the previous pictures to pimp her to the Barcelona client. She just doesn't want to hear about it. And in any case, it's probably too late, as she always keeps her word and agreements. Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:47 am elina wrote: Well, Maybe She (in some way) wanted this to happen? Maybe She even (in some ways) wants Her boss to pimp Her out again? Thanks for keeping us posted. Sincerely elina She doesn't need him to take more pictures if she wants him to pimp her out. The pictures he has already taken must surely suffice, IF he is using them for this purpose. I think she is a bit exhibitionist in nature, but at the same time, very shy about certain things. For example, she does enjoy when I take pictures of her and I can understand that she enjoys it as well when Gerardo does it. But then, she is very prudent about posting on the Internet, even when it's only parts of her body and not her face. But then again, she is taking a risk with him, because she really has no control of what he might do with the pictures. For example, if what some of you hinted is true and he is using them to pimp her out (I am not entirely convinced), then he might be sending them out electronically and once they are out, they might end up anywhere. But then again, maybe he is not doing this. Or maybe he is not sending them around and just showing them in a live meeting on his laptop. I am not sure if she wishes to be pimped out to another customer. Can this be like a drug? Certainly being a cuckold oftentimes is like a drug. I think this experience with a single customer should be enough, but I really don't know if she wants more of this. Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:30 pm Wife stayed overnight on Friday and came back Saturday evening. On Friday, he did the "usual" stuff with her: blindfold her and make her fetch whiskey and a cigar for him. But before that, he made her put an LP (yeah, those old vinyls) and danced with her, while she was basically naked (stockings, garters and heels) and he was dressed. Then he maid her lay on the table, with her head over the edge and she sucked on his dick in this position. I know that on Saturday he took her outdoors to shoot some pictures, but I don't have any details yet. She also came home with a slightly different hair color, a more reddish tone. To my astonishment, she had also dyed her landing strip! I didn't even know that this was possible. Prior to arriving home, she asked me to put on some stockings and pink panties. I am still wearing the chastity cage, although she lets me out on occasions, like the previous weekend. This time however, fucking was different than what I expected. I thought I would have to eat her out and then I could penetrate her, however this time, I ate her out and afterwards she penetrated me! She said that she wanted me to be her bitch. It has been a long time since she hadn't pegged me and it felt somewhat uncomfortable, but also good at the same time. What I feel sad about is that I wasn't allowed to reclaim her in a more "manly" way. Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:21 am MaxCargo wrote: I follow your thread for a while, it's quite an intriguing journey you share here with us. A big thank you for that. I know you're very into this, though, I have to tell you, that I'm sometimes worried about your emotional well-being, at least I wished sometimes you wouldn’t be so passive about everything. Has your wife ever voiced any concerns, that she's afraid to push you too far and hurt you emotionally? I assume Gema is also emotionally dependent of you? I know it's very personal to ask, you mentioned you two have children together, aren't you worried they could find out and misinterpret everything? Hope to hear from you again, soon :) Our daughter is an adult now. Of course I am concerned about her learning about this situation. I think I could handle being outed as a cuckold, but I am not sure how she would interpret things. Sometimes the younger generations seem so conservative. As of Gema pushing things a bit to the extreme, I have to admit that its all my fault. I have told her in the past that she should push for more, that I love it when she does so. And finally she has taken a huge step in this direction. Sometimes I feel that it is too much, but then I remember it was me that asked for it. If this is her fantasy now, I don't want to stop her from living it, not after it was me who asked her for more cuckolding. She does ask me frequently if I am ok. However, she doesn't do it in a way that would indicate that she would step down if I weren't. Yes, she is concerned about how I feel. But at the same time, she seems to have very clear what she wants to live. Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:01 am D+D wrote: Viewing Gemma's tumblr blog, it appears that you're doing a lot of oral reclaiming, but you're still caged? There's also a pic of s wife spanking her husband. Has Gema spanked you? Yes, she loves oral reclaiming. It has become a ritual for us. I can't say that I like it especially, but I usually don't dislike it either. I have become accustomed to it and I do usually welcome this part of the ritual, as with it I am reclaiming her. However, with Gerardo, thinking of his rancid sperm in her, I am having more troubles than with a younger and more attractive bull. We play ON-OFF with caging. Sometimes she cages me for a few days, sometimes for some weeks. It depends on her mood, on if I have bin loving and tender or if she thinks I need to think about my behavior. This week is Eastern in Spain and she is on holiday, although I still have to work until tomorrow. I am not caged currently. She has told me that I have free access to her, although this doesn't include her rear entry, which is reserved for bulls. Anyway, I am taking as much advantage of it as I can. I just wished that I were more sexual, like the first lover she had, who could and would fuck her the whole day. But I am not this way; I guess this is why I am a cuckold and not a bull. Gema does spank me sometimes, when she thinks I need some corrective measurements. It's not frequently, but she does it. And to be honest, she should probably do it more often. I do not enjoy the pain at all, but I think it is good for my "education". It makes me switch to a better mood, be more submissive and sweet with her, which then makes me feel better with myself. I think marriages would work better if spankings were a normal part of it, instead of arguing loudly and pissing each other off (not literally). Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:42 pm DCharles wrote: I am curious about what she likes about the oral reclaiming. What are her thoughts on it? I personally think its very hot. Love it that you are eating Gerardo's sperm. Back to earlier comments, the fact that it is repulsive is what makes it so important to go through with it. I have to believe that he gets a kick out of it. Thanks for great commentary. For her it is a demonstration of my love for her and my unconditional support for what she just did with her lover. Well, actually it's for both of us. I am kissing the pussy that had just been "bad" and had just fucked another man. If a creampie is involved, the "sacrifice" is even bigger and hence more meaningful is my demonstration of love. Plus, it also means that I am somehow accepting him. So if creampie is involved, it is not just that I support the lifestyle, but that I accept him. I guess that's one of the reasons why it is more difficult for me with her boss. Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:40 am D+D wrote: One of Gema's latest pics on her blog shows her and a camera. There are others of a beautiful woman in various stages of dress. Are these examples of photos that her boss have taken of her? Are her looks similar to the photos? I haven't yet seen the pictures her boss has taken of hers, but according to what she has said, yes, these would be some examples, depending on the pictures. She has written a rapport of some pictures he took of her in a public park and some pictures that she has posted, are similar to how she posed for him. As of the pictures in garters and stockings, that's mostly because he wants her to dress this way when she goes to the office. And he has also taken pictures of her in that dressing. She does look similar to the women in the pictures. She tries to avoid posting pictures of blond women, because she is brunette. So most of the times, there is some kind of similarity. Obviously my wife is not a twenty year old professional model, she is a natural woman, but indeed, there are similarities in what she posts. Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:07 am We've enjoyed Eastern holidays last week. We are back to work today. I've had her for me, which was really good, because it allowed us to reconnect. She said that I could enjoy her anyway I wanted, except anal, which is reserved for lovers. And damn, I did enjoy her! I just wished that I had more stamina, like some bulls she has fucked, who could keep going the whole day. For me, once I orgasm, I am usually done, until libido builds up again. But I guess that's one reason why I am a cuckold and not a bull. I don't know what's going to happen today, but I wouldn't be surprised if she is going to have a sleepover with her boss. BJohn56 - Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:49 pm I’ve read through this thread and been thinking a lot about it all. Personally, from more of an alpha male’s point of view (though one who would enjoy sharing his lady as part of the Vixen-Stag dynamic), I was thinking that this looked like it was heading towards an unhappy ending down the road. But, on further reflection, I realize that I was mostly picking up on your angst-ridden viewpoint as written here and not looking at it objectively. After all, admittedly, you’re a fairly extreme cuckold, at least from my point of view. So taking a fresh look at it this is what I see: You’ve encouraged your wife all along to push her boundaries and take ever more control of her sexuality which it seems she has. Likewise, you mentioned she had an interest in exploring the escort side of that sexuality, seeing if it were something she could do and possibly enjoy, and even seeing how much her pleasures were worth maybe? I think she’s accomplished all of these objectives and more. She’s found out that she can get paid top dollar for her favors, that she can pull off being sexual, exciting, and attentive for a lover whom she may find rather repulsive, at least in a physical way. This being something escorts need to be able to do obviously, since if a man is some kind of awesome hunk he probably wouldn’t have much need of paying for an escort. By taking her boss’s assignment to use her sexual prowess to pull in a client, and even to seal the deal with her body and charms, she has found out how powerful her sexuality can be. And she’s also managed to keep her loving cuckold on pins and needles and played his game throughout it all. Sounds like one helluva a woman to me! Her reward? A loving husband who is turned on no end by her sexiness and living his fantasy with him, a boss who enjoys her favors so much that he not only pays her top dollar but wines and dines her, romances her, takes her on lavish trips to the Alps, and makes her a player in his business dealings as well… with a nice new red Mercedes as a bonus! She even maintains a very sexy blog through all this and keeps all of us attentive readers happy just to hear about it all as well. I mean, where is the problem?? This woman does it all for the men in her life! And I, for one, would love to be one of those very lucky guys. Although granted, not cuckolded to the extent you are, since I’d like being more of an equal partner in our adventures together and not denied, etc. and without any humiliation, but hey, that’s me. To each their own. I mean, she’s doing this according to your turn-ons, not mine. And she seems to be giving you as much or even more of what you most enjoy, no? She, my friend, is close to perfect. I think just the idea that a woman like her exists in the world is a reason for all the rest of us to hope, and too, just thinking about her brings a smile to my face. She’s most certainly a woman worthy of our awe and praise. Just one man's opinion of course. ;) Oh, and as for her seeming growing attraction to her older boss, maybe part of it is a result of her sexual power being able to get all this attention from him. Let me tell you, someone having overwhelming desire for you can be a powerful aphrodisiac! And, too, I read that some of the porn actresses like working with older men because, naturally, they’re more appreciative, excited, and giving, thrilled to just be getting to work with a younger woman. Plus, just like you providing all your loving support and strength when she needs it, Gerardo opens up new worlds for her and lets her expand into them as far as she wants to go. All very powerful reasons for her enjoying it, and him, all the more. Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:13 pm Sorry for the lack of updates. I have been kept up with mundane things. I'll try to make a short recap on what is happening. Just as someone hinted before in response to my concerns, things are going slowly but surely into a specific direction. She continues being his office her. Sometimes they do it in the office, when everybody has already left, but most of the times they go to his house. About once a week, she has an overnight at his house. Since this has become a habit, she has moved some clothes to his house, so that she can change a go to work with different clothes next day. She also has some nice dresses there, as he takes her out when she stays the night with him. Most of the time, he work outfit are the classical secretary outfit, as this is what he demands: heels, stockings with the seam behind, garter belt, skirt (normal length), white blouse. But in summer he is more permissive and accepts that she uses a summer dress or skips the stockings. He does seem to have a fetish towards panties, because she always has to were them beneath. He seems to like it when she takes them off for him. He is also paying her a monthly visit to a specific beauty shop, where he sets up the appointment for her. That's usually just before she goes to see that client. She has dyed her her for him and it now has a reddish tone. She is brunette and she has weared some dark red before, but now its even more reddish. Fortunately I can't see I don't like it. The beauty shop also waxes her pussy when she goes there. I prefer it completely bald, but he has chosen a landing strip for her. Again, fortunately I can live with it. At the beginning, he wanted her natural and this was an issue for me, but I am lucky that he has thought otherwise. I think it might turn him on that he sets up the appointment at the beauty shop and she gets waxes for him. They also dye her pubic hair, matching her other hair. He blindfolds her when she is at his house and directs her to prepare him a drink or fetch his cigars. She says she loves the sensation of being blind, having to rely on being guided by his deep voice. She never liked to drink (she easily gets tipsy) and definitely disliked strong drinks. She has also never smoked and didn't tolerate the smell. But somehow, he has managed to have her drink whisky and smoke cigars with him! She only does it when she is with him, though. I still can't believe how he has managed that. I mean, she was totally against smoking and could only drink sweet cocktails. He seems to have trained her, always making her nab on his whisky and take a smoke while she was sexually aroused, either masturbating for him. or sitting on top of him on the couch and fucking him. He has taking it slowly though and it has taking him over half a year to get her to this point. He is really in no hurry and I feel that over time he will make her do whatever he wants. The thought of it both turns me on and scares me. This guy is very different to any other lovers she has had. Her other lovers were younger or about her age and it was mostly about the sex (except her first lover, with which she kind of felt in love with). But with Gerardo, it seems as if he has some kind of long-term goal with her. He is making her take baby steps, but it's one after the other. He likes to watch her masturbate, He has bought her a small vibrator in the past. Sometimes he blindfolds her while she masturbates. She says she doesn't know what he is doing during that time. He is supposed to be sitting on the cough, watching her, but he might as well be filming her. It told her, but she doesn't seem to care. She instead responded that he has already taken lots of picture of her, both inside the house as well as outdoors in semi public places. His latest addition has been a dild with a suction pad. He has made her fuck herself with it, while it was attached on a chair. But before, he made her handcuff herself behind her back! The handcuffs have been an agreement he negatiated in exchange of filming her with her phone while she was blowing him. Isn't my wife sweet? Always thinking of me! That's really one thing I don't like about him, that he has e.g. taken so many pictures of her, but he is not willing that I see them. Now the handcuffs have become a regular in their games. I mean, it's pretty obvious which direction this is going, isn't it? I have enjoyed it in the past when her lovers fucked her hard, being dominant during sex with her. But I sense this is different here. He is slowly turning her into a submissive, I don't have a clue where this is going to end. It's hot, but I also feel so out of control. I love my wife being dominant with me and I understand that he wants her lovers being strong, but Gerardo's strength is of a different type and yet one she seems to lust for. I have asked her where she wants to take it, but she said that she doesn't know, that she is just walking the path, exploring it, enjoying it. He has presented her now to his family and friend as his girlfriend. That has happened at this birthday party. At the office, nobody knows that she is with him, so I was astonished that he would want to present her to his family. She did go with him and slept at his house afterwards. His brother and his wife came to the city for the birthday party and slept at his house. He fucked her and make her moan loudly, I guess to impress them or make the jealous. Apparently she was not moaning loud enough and he pinched her nipples, so that she would scream. Her nipples are quite sensitive and she has never liked it when I applied too much pressure, but she apparently didn't mind that he did it. I asked her why she let him do that and she said that she just wanted to help him and make the family know how good at sex he was. At the party, there was also a friend. He is about the same age as Gerardo. She said he couldn't take his eyes off her. Last week he invited them to his house for a beer and swim in his pool. Gerardo asked her to remove her bikini top, so that she could better sunbath, and she did in front of his friend, showing him her boobs! Her boobs are nice, but natural, and she has always been shy about showing them, but she didn't hesitate when he told her. Afterwards Gerardo applied sun cream all over her body, including her tits, in full view of his friend, who could watch how he was sqeezing them. Later in the swimming pool, they were playing in the water and his friend "accidentally" touched her almost everywhere. She said that she was frightented going to his house, because she thought that Gerardo wanted her to fuck his friend. Now, he isn't good looking either, so it's not normally a man she would be attracted to. I asked her if she would have fucked him if Gerardo had asked, and she said she didn't know, but probably yes! I asked her why she would do that, if she was not attracted to him and it also had nothing to do with the business. She responded that she just wants to make Gerardo happy, because he is a good man, he is generous with her, treats her with respect, teaches her things and she thinks he just deserves it. Now, Gerardo did not ask her to fuck his friend. Instead, he asked her to massage him with suncream, including his feet (apparently he has trained her to deliver nice foot massages). Then he offered his friend to apply sun cream on her. She was sitting topless on top of him, feeling his bulge building up beneath her crotch. Strangely, his friend didn't touch her in any intimate place: no boobs, no pussy. He only rubbed the sun cream on her legs, belly and exposed buttock (the bikini had gotten half into her crack). I asked her if she got excited and she admitted she did. I insisted on how she could get excited if she wasn't attracted to his friend. She said that the situation was exciting and she just wished I could have been there, watching her. The last thing is the birthday present she did for Gerardo: he bought her a one-week holiday trip to Mexico with him. Of course he has taken care afterwards of the costs, but he was very happy that she took that initiative. I don't know yet if she will get one extra week in holidays, because if not, this would be one week less she will be spending with me. But unlike him, I cannot take her to such a beautiful place. My job is currently at risk and we are becoming more dependent on her income. But what concerns me more is what he will be able to do her with a full week, 24 hours a day together. As I said above, I feel excited and concered at the same time. I don't know how much of it is the natural cuckold angs how much is real concern. For example her booking one week holiday with him, gives me an instant boner (it's not easy for me to admit it, but I had to free myself and say it), but scares me at the same time. With regards to myself and sex with her, I do get to fuck her regularly, but it's always her who dictates when, where and how, and if I am allowed to cum. She has also become more demanding with me eating her out. She asks this of me more and more often, which I love, by the way. We have discussed my concerns and she has listened carefully to me. She says that she will try to improve things for me, getting me more involved, lower my angst. But she also reminded me of her sexual freedom and ordered me to put on my cage, as a reminder of that. So now I am caged once again and only she knows when I will be freed. Serrand Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:24 am Of course, I could be all wrong, we all have only a limited view of your affairs here, but it wouldn't surprise me at all, if your wife's boss tries to break you and Gema up and ruin your marriage, at least in the longterm. Probabely he won’t be successful, but be prepared, that Gerardo will try. I assume you already know this yourself. Do you know, if Gerardo ever belitted you or talked bad about you or towards Gema, has she ever told about something like that? You said you talked about your concerns with wife. Are you able to be a little more precise about what your concerns are? And how Gema reacted to them specifically? What does she particularly to reassure you of her love for you? Well, I wish you and Gema all the best. Hope we don't have to wait for your next updates too long Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:11 pm wingman wrote: GM Third, do you think you would like to speed thing up to where Gerardo is taking your wife? If so, let Gerardo know your ok with things accelerating, GEMMA HAS YOUR OK, and she is ok with moving faster as well.. I think Gema likes the pace just as it is. In fact, that seems to be one thing that she loves about Gerardo. She says that this is because he is a mature man, unlike some other lovers that in the end turned out to be big boys. I don't believe that she would feel good about speeding up things. She just likes to take it slowly, especially in this strange voyage she is having. She is not a submissive who would instantly fell down to her dom's feet. Instead, this seems to be something that needs to evolve step by step and neither she nor me really know where this will stop. She just says she feels good about how Gerardo is handling it (her). Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:18 pm Serrand wrote: Do you know, if Gerardo ever belitted you or talked bad about you or towards Gema, has she ever told about something like that? As far as I know, he just prefers to ignore me completely. Unless he needs something of me, like videotaping my wife while she masturbates at home for her. He bought her a big teddy bear and asked her to fret against it every Sunday in anticipation of her meeting him on Monday at work. I have to video tape it with her phone, so that she can later send it to him. I think that if he would talk bad about me, it would just backfire on him. He is smart and he would know. But again, I think he just ignores me for the most part. Serrand wrote: You said you talked about your concerns with wife. Are you able to be a little more precise about what your concerns are? And how Gema reacted to them specifically? What does she particularly to reassure you of her love for you? Well, I gave up trying to be the Alfa in our marriage. It didn't work too well and honestly, we are having great fun since her lovers take this place and I am relieved to being "only" the husband and provider. But with her now earning more money than me, with my job not going all too well, with the way she is earning the money... I think you get it. I feel like am failing her because I am failing being the provider I should be. If I am not able to provide, what's left of me? We have discussed it and she has told me that she doesn't care about the money (neither the one she is earning nor the one I am earning), that she just loves me and I shouldn't believe too much in this pseudo science about cuckold stuff. Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:55 pm yloduck wrote: Does Gema continue to make visits to Gerardo's client in Barcelona? Yes, she does, about once per month aprox. She typically goes to the customer's office to work, then they have dinner together and sex and next day she goes again to his office to finish working. Just before she heads to the train station, he typically asks her for a blowjob in his office. Several times, he has asked her to crawl to him, to blow him. In exchange for this ongoing service, she got a company car. I am not sure what would happen if she refused continue seeing this customer, but I guess she would lose the company car. Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:22 pm She had an overnight yesterday and came back home today. She is on holidays now and won't be seeing him until their trip to Mexico. Her boss gave her the dildo and handcuffs to practice at home. He instructed her to put it on a wall or mirror with the suction, and practice deep throating, while her hands are handcuffed behind. It's going to feel weird seeing her doing this for him, but I have to admit, I am excited. He told her that he wanted me to video tape it on my phone and send him the recording every day! Say_Oy Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:04 am I like how Gerardo is slowly enslaving Gema. Cuffs now... more later. Pinching her nipples so she screams - and her being willing and probably turned on by the torture. (My own sub complains about the pain, but puts up with it and admits it turns her on. Also holds her tit up for me to bite hard.) Have you noticed that he is now more in control when she is NOT with him? She is masturbating and performing tasks for him at home, thinking of him and having orgasms even when not with him... Just the thought of him turns her on and makes her want to cum. He is very talented. Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:33 am Serrand wrote: Well, it sounds these are intense times for you. Please, keep us updated as much as you can. Will you be in contact with Gema while she's away in Mexico? In about two weeks. Serrand wrote: Another thing, it's a little bite off topic, but I have to admit I'm curious. I hope it isn't inappropriate to ask how you and Gema actually have met and fallen in love with each other? Existed other suitors for her love and you had "to win" her? It would be great if you could a little about it. We fell in love when we were in our early twenties. Shame on me, I was still virgin at that time. And she had had only one boyfriend before me. The same party where I won her over (she was single at that time), she had another guy after her. That guy was a gigolo type. He was very successful with girls. He had been a long time after her and even managed to get her into the car with him and kiss her once (nothing more happened). She had just broken up with her boyfriend and this guy was smelling his chance. And so did I. But I won :-) Say_Oy wrote: He is very talented. Yes, I thought you should be concerned early on that he would simply take her from you. However, you pointed out how strong your relationship is with Gema. I also think there is a ray of hope for more participation. They are starting to involve you more, not to service Gerardo in a homosexual way, but to act as servant and enabler - filming your wife is a service to him. If she emphasizes to him that this is not "gay" and is useful to him he may start to develop an appreciation of your service. Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:58 pm MaxCargo wrote: Hallo, how were you last days with Gema before she went away on her vacation to Mexico? Did she something special to make it up to you for leaving you alone for a week, to demostrate her deep love for you? I'm relatively sure she did, if I translate it correctly she said in one of her blog entries that "she will be forever faithful in her heart to you." I hope I don't sound too impatient, but I really hope we get an update soon. She told me that I could do everything with her, whatever I wanted. I have to confess that it turns me on visualzing how Gerardo dominates her and I am somewhat jealous of him. I am always the bottom with my wife. It's ok, I like it this way and I feel better if she takes the decisions and the initiative. It's just that sometimes, I would like to be on the top, just from time to time, to experience it. So I took advantage of her offer and tied her up with Gerardo's handcuffs. I could even have her ass! I have never had her anally. This is something she reserves for her bulls. I am mostly supportive, but... this was my chance! However, at some point of time, I stopped. Suddenly it didn't feel right dominating her. I stopped before taken her ass. It was my chance, I wanted it, but it wasn't right. I told her that it wasn't working and asked her to dominate me instead. She donned her strap-on and took me instead and I loved it. It felt sweet and calm. I guess I have a bit of a switch, but it seems I am mostly submissive in nature. No doubt he is. Do you understand why I am frightened at times? Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:26 pm Interesting and troubling things have happened during her trip to Mexico with Gerardo. As we all expected, it has been quite intense, but believe she didn't expect it to be it from the very beginning. Beware spoiler alert! If you are following my wife's blog, you probably shouldn't continue reading this post. She hasn't told yet most of it, but I am sure she will over time. She has told me of course, and I feel I need to write it down to process it. Just an example: he made her travel without suitcase. She did pack quite a big one (women!) and she went with it to the airport. But he had some friend there to help with the suitcases. When they arrived to the check-in, his friend and her suitcase were gone. He told her that she wouldn't need it with him. She also bought some very nice boots especially for him and she was wearing them in the plane. But at the first trip to the beach, he made her abanon them in the sand. Kind of starting over without unnecessary baggage. Of course he bought her afterwards new boots and clothes, all to his liking. She came back home with a new big suitcase full of things. And then the strange thing occurred: while she was becoming more and more submissive, she suddenly told him over dinner that she wanted to fuck one of his employees. He is a cocky one and always flirts with me wife. She says she isn't sure why she mentioned this to him. Maybe she wanted to rebel. She told him that she would love to be the boss of this guy and she would seduce him into doing nasty things for her. As you can see, my wife is a switch. She loves dominating me, but is mostly submissive with her lovers. Now, bringing another man in to dominate him is a new thing. Maybe she is trying to reaffirm herself and balance out her submissiveness towards her boss. Anyway, this lead to a discussion, or as she states it, negotiation, and Gerardo agreed on restructuring some departments and put her on charge. Its a promotion. But it comes at some costs (and also some other benefits I am not going to list here right now). He wants her to have more overnights at his house. And he wants her to have her once a month for almost a week (several consecutive days). But that's not all. He wants her to show commitment by accepting to undergo a boobjob! She is smart and asked him to show commitment himself by including a golden parachute clause in her contract. The boob job... the idea is breath taking. Since her motherhood, she has been always very selfconcious about her boobs. They are ok, natural and having lived all the stress of lactation. I have been encouraging her from time to time to get a boob job. I imagine her very sexy with new boobs. She is very attractive, but she could be so much more... She has always turned me down on this and I don't reproach it. Her tits are nice the way they are, she doesn't need plastic ones, she doesn't need the risk of a complication. I haven't insisted, I have just teased her from time to time, trying to open her up to the possibility, even just as a thought experiment. But she has always categorically refused. And now... she is considering it. Because HE told her. Isn't that going too far? I mean, it's hot, it's something I wanted, but it's HIM. He has given her some free time to think about it and we are discussing it. She doesn't need my approval. First, she takes the decisions and that's ok. Second, it's her body. But it's something that affects us both and we are both thinking about it together. I am quite a mess. I don't know what to tell her. Should I encourage her? Forbid it because its HIM and it's creating an even bigger attachment? Should I be neutral, step back and let her make the decision? The latter is the least complicated for me and fits into my submissive nature. I am tempted to just do that, but then I think that I should also protect her and that this is probably going too far. Is it? Say_Oy Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:26 am Gema needs to explain to Gerardo that if she gets a boob job with silicone inserts he won't be able to slap them, at least not hard. I'm not sure if he likes that, so far he seems to be content with pinching nipples. Also, I'm just going with experience / input from one friend that had very large implants. She looked great but could not stand / was scared of rough treatment due to fear of damage to the implants. Submissives modifying their body for their Dom is not unusual. Some accept tattoos, scarring, piercings. The friend I mentioned had the implants done at the request of her Dom. She also lost a lot of weight and had a lot of belly skin removed. Looked great with a scar like a string bikini. Then they split when he got other subs - a girl wants attention. In a way, Gema getting a promotion - supervising others - is a great move on her part. As part of this maybe she can negotiate you being more involved when she is at Gerardo's house for a long period. Maybe you can act as butler? I am wondering who the "friends" are that show up at airports to dispose of suitecases, etc. are. Are they hired help or are they other sub missives? Or other cuckolds? MaxCargo -Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:33 am Wow, first thank you for the update. I agree there are some exciting but also concerning developments. You ask if this all probabely going too far? Well, of course, I don't know every detail of your situation, but I would tend to say yes this is going probabely too far. As exciting and tempting this all sounds maybe this going in a direction, which is not necessarily healthy for your marriage. I think it's not the time for you to step back and simply let Gema decide. You should do it together. I hope you cleary vioce your concerns about this all to Gema. From my point of view, its quite obvious that Gerardo wants a permanent stack of Gema. Not only of her body, but also of her mind and more important her heart. That’s probabely why he wants her to spent a complete week with him. I would be very, very reluctant about that. To spend a overnight once maybe even twice a week, ok, but a complete week, and I bet Gerardo doesn't want Gema to have any form of contact with you during that time, that would be way too much, in my opinion. About the boobjob, yes, this fuels many male fantasies, I completely understand (If Gema getting one please don't go overboard with the size). But it would probabely let to further obligation on Gema's side towards Gerardo, if he's paying for it. I know, you have told that your job situation is difficult. It's probabely a "crazy" idea of me, but if Gema should decide to go for a boobjob is it economical possible for you to pay ar least half of it? I mean to balance things out with Gerardo. However,of course, the decision is only up to you and Gema. But don't do it in haste, but you certainly know this yourself. No matter what you do I wish you the very best. I hope I don't sound too demanding but please don't let us wait too long for your next updates. Take care Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:49 am Thanks as always for your wise advice. I don't think she would want him to slap her tits anyway. She is submissive to him, but she doesn't like pain. I don't think it would ever happen, regardless of if her tits were natural or had implants. The airport friend? I have no clue. I don't think he is a submissive. Gerardo doesn't strike me like having male submissives. My guess he was either a friend or someone he paid for it, or maybe both. Damn! I just rad your last words. I had totally overlooked them! You think it could be another cuckold? LIke if he has a hotwife harem with cuckold husbands who are submissive to him. You are such a scary creature! I don't know, but I think Gema is the only one he is seeing. But maybe I am wrong. He keeps surprising me. I don't know if he wants her heart, but I am sure he wants her soul. Quote: (If Gema getting one please don't go overboard with the size). She said that if we decided to go for the boobjob, it would be him deciding the size. That was one of his conditions. She said that he wanted this as a proof of trust in him. That's scary. What if he wants balloon-sized tits? I like them rather medium to small. I love them firm, but they should look natural. There is a saying here in Spain: if it doesn't fit into your hand, than it's not a tit, it's an udder. If it does fit, than it's not a tit, it's a grain. Size is different. Not too small, not too big. I have no clue if he likes them big. I guess not, because otherwise he wouldn't have "hired" my wife. But even he likes them medium, he might just want to go for big, to prove his power over her. Damn! Scary! I know, doctors wouldn't just put her an implant she hasn't agreed on. That's not realistic. That probably works on TV or in books, but not in real live. But I also know that if my wife gives her word, she keeps her promise. If she tells him that she will accept that he decides the size, chances are very high that she will go with it, regardless of his choice. She has always been this way, keeping her promises. But with Gerardo, that also adds to her submissiveness. So that's a matter I can't trust her about, because I don't trust HIM. MaxCargo - Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:03 pm Therefore, I strongly recommend to you, if you have the savings, you should insist to pay half of it, to have a say about it. I think you also should make this clear to Gema that this is non-negotiable, if she really decides to have a boobjob. You're right, it's her body, but this all affects you as well. Certainly way more than Gerardo. I know, you're comfortable with Gema making the decisions, but no matter what, if she's saying she trusts Gerardo, in this case, if she really goes for a boobjob, you have to step in, this matter is far too serious. To be blunt, to hell with Gerardo's condition he wants to dictate the boobsize and probabely other things as well. You all should agree. Again, you should insist on this. If Gerardo doesn't want to agree to this terms, the surgery or at least any involvement of him in this case should be off the table. Another issue I already ask you earlier about. What do think about Gema spending even more time with Gerardo? I would assume this is even more important than a possible boobjob? Please; excuse me, if I got a little bite emotional. I hope I'm not too intrusive, but I feel occasionally a little concerned about you. Please keep updated soon BJohn56 - Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:16 pm Sorry, but I think this whole situation has become a little ridiculous. At first, I thought you had exactly what you wanted, and that Gema was doing a masterful job of keeping the men in her life happy. But as this has proceeded, I don't think that's the case after all... or at least not anymore. He wants her to get a boob job? Seriously? And Gema has so little self-esteem that she would consider this? If nothing else, I would think that the idea that Gerardo wants this shows it's not Gema that he cares about at all, but the idea of Gema, the fact that she's his whore, to do with as he pleases, and as his money dictates. And to say it is a matter of trust is a joke. It's a matter of control, pure and simple. And Gema has already shown him that she's obviously for sale, the price is the only thing that's actually negotiable. I've attempted talking with her on her blog several times, trying to get a read on what the situation truly is, because I'm concerned for you as well, Daniel. But she dodges the questions she doesn't want to answer every time because she KNOWS the answers and is afraid you'll discover the truth if you check her blog and she admits as much there. or maybe it's simply because she doesn't want to admit the truth to herself, I don't know. But the fact is that you're slowly but surely losing her, Daniel. Losing her. She's your wife, not Gerado's, yet what you really think doesn't appear to matter to her as much as what she wants, which is determined by what her boss/master/pimp wants. And surprise, surprise, if she accepts this surgery, then she will also need to spend yet more time with Gerardo and less with her husband. Time spent in luxurious locations, in pimping her out on business deals, in letting her fuck other men at his whim and pleasure, when he decides to, all very exciting I'm sure. She doesn't have to think at all, just do as she's told, and pretend it's a negotiation because that's the game he has her playing. Letting her think she has a say in things when she truly doesn't. More like she does what he wants and he pretends to make little concessions so that she'll think she maybe still has some semblance of control but doesn't. She's long since embraced this whole situation, and I can even see a mock wedding or binding of some sort shortly down the road, where he cuts the nuisance husband even further out of the picture. It was her idea to give Gerard a week away with her, no? Was that something she discussed with you so as if you had any real input in the decision? She wanted to do it, and so made pretence of giving her poor husband one single night where he could have her how he wanted as some kind of sham compensation, so he wouldn't give her a hard time about it or actually, maybe, grow a set of balls and simply tell her... no. No. NO. Look, I understand that having a hotwife is an exciting lifestyle or I wouldn't be on this forum, but as I pointed out to her, she's no longer really a hotwife at all, she's simply Gerardo's whore now, and it makes life a lot easier to not have to scratch out a living like the rest of us anymore, with a golden parachute in her boss to pay her way and ask nothing of her but her body and soul in return. I asked her on more than one occasion what would she do if you, her husband, said enough was enough, and she avoided having to answer that every time, which of course, is an answer in itself. She will not give Gerardo or the lifestyle he provides, or the fascination of being his whore, up, period. Not even for you, it seems. or, if there's any hope to be had, maybe she would if you said no, and gave her a "you or him" ultimatum as a choice, but she didn't want to admit it on her blog as you might see it and realize you still had a chance to save your marriage, I don't know. It's long since moved beyond the hotwife lifestyle in my opinion. In the lifestyle, this is all done as something that both partners agree to, that turns them both on, and that actually enhances their love life. When's the last time you felt like you could even get laid by your own wife with any kind of certainty? The night of the compensation for her week away? Gerardo has turned you, her husband, into nothing more than a prop for his fantasies of controlling your wife as he so wishes. You even film her for him. However he wants. Whatever he wants you're compelled to do for Gema. Obviously, I'm not there to see all the interactions between you and your wife, or your wife and Gerardo, so I can only base my opinion on what you both give us in your own words here and on her blog. And on my gut feeling from having read so much of what other couples in the lifestyle have experienced and/or gone through in their own journeys. But I honestly worry about you both. Gema, in that, unless she's something other than a good-hearted person and is actually just manipulating you as much as Gerardo manipulates her, she's going to lose the love of her life and herself if she continues all this much further. And I worry for you that out of love for her and playing the slave/cuckold you'll lose your marriage and your wife to this old fart who enjoys you both like playthings or toys, and that even if you keep your marriage intact it'll be nothing but in name only, as Gema/Gerardo keep you as her pet, like a good dog, or fancy bird in a cage, simply for their amusement. Anyway, I want you to know that I don't say all this in judgement of either you or Gema, because I respect your rights to live in any kind of lifestyle or arrangement you both wish naturally. I say it more as in a warning of what it seems like is already happening in hopes that you may still be able to see this relationship she's gotten herself into for what it is. And that maybe she'll see it as well, unless she already knows it for what it is and simply prefers it over your marriage without the money, master/pimp, car, and exotic trips. But mainly that maybe you still can put your foot down, at least take back some bit of control, and stop the obvious downward spiral into what may end unhappily in the near future. I truly wish you both luck. I think Gema is a good woman who has maybe gotten herself into something so completely, that she no longer can seem to see the forest for the trees and may end up losing what matters most, her own love in you, and for her marriage. And if that ends up happening, all the love and support from you may not be able to help her if she falls into the abyss too deeply. But whatever happens, I truly hope you both find happiness in whatever choices you make, or don't make. I just wanted to say my long piece here, because, for me, it's like seeing a car wreck or something, and only wishing I could've said something to help forestall it. And now I have. Serrand - Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:34 pm Well, I don’t see everything as negative as the previous commentator, but he has some valid points. I can't imagine that Gema really would go against your wishes, the wishes of the man she deeply loves whitout a doubt, if you would cleary fromulate them to her. But I think that's exactly your problem. At least, you have the impression that you're so damn passive about everything. But like another one already said this not the time to stay submissive. You should be more dominant and in control of the situation . You should be extremely suspicious about Gerardo's motives. He seems to a scheming old varmint. Most important, you shouldn't agree, under no circumstances, that Gema starts spending a whole week with Gerardo every month. From there on Gerado would surely soon start demanding more and more time from Gema until she spends most of the time with him. So beware of the beginning. It also wouldn’t surprise if he would try to cut off your sex life with Gema. Maybe I'm painting Gerardo in a too negative way, but please be very careful about him and his actions. Oh, I also agree the suggestion that you at least pay of half have the boobjob, if Gema decides to have one, I think this quite a sensible idea. Please, keep us updated. Say_Oy - Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:55 am Un matrimonio que funciona bien. El único problema es que a ella se le vaya la cabeza y que a él se le haya olvidado pararla. From Gema's log. Is she trying to tell us/you something? Sometimes you negotiate and have to refuse the deal. Or add conditions on your side. How badly does she want to fuck that co-worker? - and why when she is smitten by Gerardo? - and why is he so supportive about letting her do it? Something important is missing from the picture... I think that if Gema wants to take the deal she needs to add a condition - you have to be able to come with her to the house and somehow participate when she is there for the full week. Gerardo does not have to play with you, enjoy watching your misery in denial while he has your wife - but Gema needs to touch base/connect with you in some way. She really needs to make it clear that she can be his, but you will always be hers. Maybe she can equate it to having a pet that has to come with her... :) Side item - if your job is in danger - should you be looking elsewhere? Or consider a career switch and learning a new skill while you are still employed? (What field do you work in?) Maybe you should blog in a place that pays you if you have enough followers? Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:27 pm Say_Oy wrote: Un matrimonio que funciona bien. El único problema es que a ella se le vaya la cabeza y que a él se le haya olvidado pararla. From Gema's log. Is she trying to tell us/you something? Yes, that she is fucking with my mind, driving me crazy! If I protest too much, I get punished and reminded that she takes the decisions. If don't insist, she teases me saying that I am letting her take the wrong decision. Do I need to stop her? Or should I rather encourage her? Of course I will voice my concerns and in fact, she listens and considers them. That's not the question here. It's going beyond voicing concerns, insisting too much, which she doesn't allow (because we have agreed on this lifestyle and I am mostly very happy with her taking the lead). Again, she is just trying to drive me nuts! Quote: How badly does she want to fuck that co-worker? I think she could perfectly live without fucking him. I think there are several things here: one, she seems wanting to be rebellious here, trying to gain some space in Gerardo's dominion of her, maybe making it a bit more difficult for him to submit her. I am not sure how much it is about rebelling against him, or to be more precise, against her own desires of submission. I am not sure how much this is about boycotting or hindering the situation and how much it is just about playing with Gerardo and fucking his mind, just as she does with me. But I am pretty sure it mostly isn't about having sex with her co-worker. He is rather a tool for something she feels she needs to do, even though herself is unable to rationalize why and with which goal. And then it's also maybe about making me happy, showing me that she is not totally focused on Gerardo and that she is still a free hotwife. And finally, I have the feeling that she will mind-fuck this poor guy. She mentioned something about trying to "twist" him. I am not sure what this means exactly, but I am pretty sure that he will get some kind of surprise. Maybe she just gets off with the thought of dominating an employee, just as Gerardo dominates her. Maybe it is a way of balancing something out. She is a switch after all (she submits to him and dominates me, that's clearly a switch to me). Maybe she needs both sides to be balanced. Crazy bitch of a wife I have... That's not the woman I married... but its the woman that I love even more. I wouldn't have dared to marry her if she were that way, but I do enjoy seeing her transformation. It keeps things being interesting. Quote: - and why when she is smitten by Gerardo? Well, she is rather submissive with her lovers or bulls, since the first one - Silvestre - she had. But it's not easy to find a truly dominant bull. It's not even easy to find a bull. Most men, at least here in Spain, are driven aback when they learn that I am aware and supportive. And those who claim are dominant, they are either really not or are immature assholes. And that's what she likes from Gerardo, that he has a long-term vision, that he is slow, builds it up at her pace, that he mind fucks her rather than just having rough sex. And she does get off on feeling a bit whorish and being paid for the service. Being paid is also a way for her having an excuse for doing certain things. It's like she is saying that she isn't doing it because she wants it, not even because she is submissive, but because it's a deal and she has a commitment towards the "business" (I don't mean the company's business, but rather her business with him). Quote: - and why is he so supportive about letting her do it? Something important is missing from the picture... I don't know. But could he really stop her from doing it anyway? Maybe he is smart and knows when to take a step back, instead of trying to test his authority over her and end up losing. Or maybe he is enthralled because she dared to propose it and thinks it's gonna be fun watching. Or he thinks that she will get bored with this coworker soon and he will only be a momentary nuisance. Or maybe he has a plan to team up with the coworker and plan to come back together strong on her. Or maybe he plans on using this situation to gain a leverage on both of them, maybe he has certain, hideous plans for him as well. This guy IS very smart. It could be any possibility. You see why though it mostly excites me what my wife does, I am scared at times? Quote: Maybe she can equate it to having a pet that has to come with her... :) That's devious! You could be Gerardo's sensei... You are a scary guy as well! Having said this, the idea is indeed appealing to me. It's just a pity that she doesn't read this forum. She is quickly improving her English, but this would probably too much text for her. And although she knows that I write on OHW, I want to keep this a bit private. But still, if she would read this and come up with the idea... I just don't want to suggest it myself. I am submissive, but I have my limits. It's not the same being "forced" to do something humiliating than coming up yourself with the idea. The latter is harder and much less fun. Maybe someone could suggest it to her....? Quote: Side item - if your job is in danger - should you be looking elsewhere? Or consider a career switch and learning a new skill while you are still employed? (What field do you work in?) I work in IT. That's not bad, now that the economy seems to be growing again. I am not a techie, I am more of a project manager and I am good in what I do. I don't want to leave the company myself, because I have been working since many years here and the way employment protection laws work in Spain, they will have to give me a substantial amount of money if they fire me. So I am kind of trapped: If I leave, I lose the money they would give me. If I stay and get fired (not sure if this will happen), then it will be more difficult for me to find another job, than switching before it happens. Quote: Maybe you should blog in a place that pays you if you have enough followers? What do you mean with this? Blog our story and make money out of it? She has written a book and is finishing the second volume. It's on Amazon. It's more of a hobby to her than something professional. It doesn't make enough money to pay e.g. the monthly electricity bill. Maybe I should translate it to English. I am not sure if my skills are sufficiently good, but I could try. Maybe if they fire me and I have enough spare time... Ky_Da - Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:34 pm Wow… I mean Wow! I just finished reading through this thread and I’ve got to say, I loved it. If I were in your place, I would be terrified by how far this has gone. Don’t misunderstand me, what you and your wife are doing is something I fantasize about all the time. I would love my wife to be doing a lot of things your wife is doing. The Tumblr account is genius! Imagining my wife as a corporate whore, pimped out to clients and selected management – damn that thought is amazing. But I doubt I could handle things as well as you have. I’d be terrified all the time I was losing her, then again, that’s always part of the thrill. This post has been inspiring, and given me and my wife a lot to talk about. I have to confess, though. I just can’t get to a place where eating cream pies seems like a good idea. I suppose I’m a little hypocritical because I love it when my wife holds cum in her mouth and swallows it. But the thought of doing it myself I find repulsive. I know my wife likes the idea of coming home and sitting on my face with a fresh cream pie, but right now that’s one of my hard limits. I don’t know how you do it. Thanks for taking time to write. I’ll be following this thread for as long as it continues Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:47 am Ky_Da wrote: Wingman is totally right. But admit it. You want him to pick and then for your submissive little wife to come home with massive tits. Fun to think about. No, no, not at all! I hate massive plastic tits. But I would probably go one or two steps bigger than what she probably has in mind. She would like something very natural looking. I think it doesn't matter if it is obvious they are fake: no matter how you try, it will be obvious anyway, so why not be proud of it? In fact, it would be even better to let men know that she is sexy and she knows it... But not bimbo style, please. Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:18 am yielding william wrote: My wife's first experience was with a boss she was temporarily assigned to for four months. It began just a couple of weeks after they began working together and lasted only two weeks after she transferred. The likelihood of losing a wife to her boss is slim. She most likely isn't his first employee he's been inside and won't be the last. I wouldn't worry about it unless she begins giving indications of a deep attachment beyond the temporary feelings a woman gets at the moments she's being fucked. When another guy's dick is inside her, it's common for a wife to feel she's in love with the other man but that flaming emotion isn't lasting. I wouldn't say she loves him. Definitely not. But she has developed some kind of bonding with him. It's probably due to her submissive feelings towards him. It's a strong affection, but not love. I don't think she would want to replace me as a husband with him. But I do see how he is becoming more important in her life. And she is not about short-term relationships either, she is thinking long-term with him. That's ok, I honestly prefer as well a more stable relationship than switching the lover every few months. HowardRoarke - Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:02 am Him becoming more important to her shouldn't be an issue. That's part of the progression, especially with Dom/sub relationships. Also agree that he doesn't seem interested in replacing you in your role as her husband. His actions frequently seem to be more in line with an attempt at replacing you in her affections, though. The gradual molding of her, his refusal to include you in any meaningful way, breaking her Down on this recent trip to Mexico. It all seems pretty strategic. Ask other Doms. He's "grooming" her. Or at least he's trying to. So, "more important"? No problem. "More important than you"? Problem. Find a way to pay for her.boobjob yourself. He gets to enjoy them as a "thank you" for helping convince her to get the procedure. That ought to be the.extent of her "indebtedness" and "commitment" to him. Good luck. And I really enjoy your wife's writing. Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:56 am Zona wrote: It has become clear to at least one commentator here--BJohn56--that Gema has allowed herself to become a prostitute. I agree. And a rather cheap one at that. She fucks Gerardo for a few bucks raise in salary and a company car. She fucks Gerardo's clients for a small bonus, and now she has wangled a small promotion so she can supervise an employee she wants to fuck. She is considering allowing her boss to spend more overnights with her, but that is not enough. Now he wants her for a whole week every month. That, my friend, is the very definition of prostitution. Now I'm not getting all moralistic here. If she wants to be a whore that is her prerogative. I'm just saying that since she already is one and is apparently comfortable with it, she could do a LOT better financially setting herself up as a high class call girl--for example $1,000-1,500 USD for a two-hour fuck. She could also establish herself as a submissive whore and earn an additional few hundred dollars a night. The sky is the limit if she just gets herself out from under that cheap pig who is paying her peanuts for what she is worth. Well, prostitution is an ample concept. Being paid for sex? Yes, she is a prostitute. But she doesn't work the streets. She is not a high class escort, having to deal with multiple men, often with new men too. She's only had paid sex with Gerardo and this Barcelona customer. It doesn't make her less a whore if you want to see it this way. But it's not the same as being a true professional with an open service. It's for sure less profitable, but it's not (just) about the money. She rather sees herself as a sugar girl, as she has recently stated in her blog. Again, a sugar girl is a prostitute, but there are big differences. An about establishing herself as a submissive whore, that wouldn't work at all for her. She is submissive to Gerardo, but the level is not comparable with what would be expected from a submissive. He hasn't even spanked her (yet) (as far as I know). I think you are taking things to the extreme here. I am not offended, I just wanted to clarify Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:37 am elina wrote: As numerous persons have stated before, this section is called the "cuckold forum". It is intended to be a forum where the Ladies make decisions, are free to fuck and submit to whoever they want to, while the husband-cuckold frequently discovers that he actually likes to submit to Her decisions, likes to demonstrate his devotion to Her by encouraging Her and sharing Her joy of Her sexual freedom and how She decides to exploit this. These were exactly my thoughts when I doubted whether I should place this thread in the hotwife or the cuckold section. The differences initially were not clear to me, oftentimes they are subtle. But I placed it in the right place for a good reason: she takes the decisions and I don't have to always agree with them. In the overall I am happy, otherwise we would break up, but that doesn't make the individual decisions she takes less... hmm... troubling. But I guess this is what you get when you first create a hotwife and then push her to take her own decisions freely: you end up being married to a lovely, seductive and troubling cuckoldress. BJohn56- Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:07 am I would like to extend my apologies to Daniel, first and foremost, and to the rest of the posters and followers here on this thread... the last few posts have made me realize exactly where I am here, on the cuckold forum, not the Hotties section where I usually am. (gotta love getting to see the ladies) While I love the idea of sharing my girl, it's sharing, yes, not giving her away in the extreme cuckold sense that some guys seem to really enjoy. I tend to check out the other forums here from time to time and Daniel's story kind of sucked me in. I thought he really was worried and upset from the way he sounded, like I would be if my wife had gone as far as Gema has with Gerardo, but I know now, from his own words, that that's not the case. He's enjoying it all just as it is and would even like it more extreme if anything. But I didn't realize that until the last couple of posts. My opinion in my previous post was based on my frustration with actually trying to see what was really going on with Gema and Gerardo over on her blog, and on my interactions back and forth with her, and not here with Daniel. My mistake. I honestly don't mind what kind of lifestyle anyone lives as long as they're all consenting to it, and hey, if they're happy, more power to them. So I guess, as it turns out, it was my post that was ridiculous being posted here, and not Daniel's and Gema's relationship together. From my perspective, which admittedly is more of a dom's if anything, I still stand by what I see happening, because I recognize Gerardo's slow but insidious taking control of not just Gema's decision-making, but the couple's lives, essentially. He's doing a masterful job working Gema and thereby Daniel... course, it doesn't hurt to have money and power to use in that training. I imagine if he was simply an office clerk or a garbage man he wouldn't have ever gotten the chance to be with Gema in the first place. Anyway. Never meant to be negative, just stated my opinion based on what I thought was happening. Enjoy yourselves all. No need to apogizr, at least not to me. I haven't felt being offended. On the contrary, I appreciate your involvement and your insight - there were valid points. I wouldn't exactly say I enjoy the situation, but neither could I say that it is complete distasteful. I am bekngncuckolded, because this is what I chose. But it's neither black nor white. Sometimes it is astonishing, sometimes exciting, sometimes frightening, even threatening and sometimes also a bit hurtful. It's all normal for a cuckold situation, but... cuckoldfan - Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:20 am Daniel you are having your fantasies fulfilled . I have read your thread and much of what is going on in your life is very much an adventure in itself . It seems that you have a cuckold life that know one else can relate 100% to because we each have our own. You struggle with Gerado but is that really a bad thing. what you wrote here is right on..... But it's neither black nor white. Sometimes it is astonishing, sometimes exciting, sometimes frightening, even threatening and sometimes also a bit hurtful. It's all normal for a cuckold situation, but... You are a cuckold without any doubt. I say if you can handle the feelings both good and bad , then embrace it and enjoy it. How many have fantasized about having their wives fucking someone they hate? Many do and they say the thought of it happening is HOT. IT is humiliating and at the same time fulfilling your needs. Over the years I have had and lost many woman and it hurt like hell but today as I look back I am glad it happed. You and Gemma are doing just fine. The chance of losing her is always a threat in a cuckolds life but that is one thing that makes it exciting for some of us. Keep going and don't worry about what any others think about your situation. BJohn56 - Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:09 pm Quote: The chance of losing her is always a threat in a cuckolds life but that is one thing that makes it exciting for some of us. Keep going and don't worry about what any others think about your situation. I just find it beyond my ken that someone would so enjoy their kink to the extreme where they could very well lose the love of their life rather than either slow it down, or even stop it for a breather to reassess things maybe. I also kind of find it interesting that I'm admonished for pointing this out to someone who is playing an extreme cuckold "game", and yet this poster has no problem encouraging someone to keep going no matter what others may think, or even Daniel's own fears as well it seems? While I understand that this depth of cuckoldry is beyond what I'd enjoy and be comfortable with, and that I am here in the cuckold's forum, I still think that when someone (Daniel) is voicing his concerns even as he enjoys it for the most part, that both sides of advice or warning shouldn't be heard and/or considered without prejudice? That being said I think it's too late in reality at this point, so Daniel probably should enjoy it as much as he can while he can. I don't think Gemma would stop with Gerardo for any reason. Including Daniel. And for some here, I know, that only makes it all the better. Granted. Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:22 pm Everything fine hear. I do have family, work, etc., which keeps me from updating more regularly. However, in this case, my wife has asked me to go radio silence for a while, so that I don't spoil her blog. Some people seem to be reading it, although it's in Spanish. I have been told that Google Translate works fine, for the most part. To summarize up to the point I am allowed to: She has been off from work for a week, to think about his proposal. He asked her to take some free time, so that she could come to a decision on herself, without his daily influence. However, she hasn't taken yet a decision after that week and she is back to work. Apparently this week without seeing him, has let her feel what it is without him and I can say that she did miss him. So she is back to week and she has already fucked him, although only in the office. She hasn't been at this house again. In her last post she said that crawling naked in the office towards him felt good, but the sex in the office is not comparable with an overnight at his house. So basically she is testing herself, trying to find out how much she wants to go deeper into this lifestyle with him. No decision yet, but she does seem to crave his dominance and her submission to him. Will that craving be enough to undergo a boobjob and spend more time at his house? I don't think so, it's just too much time. I think Gerardo overshot with his proposal. Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 1:38 pm MaxCargo wrote: Again, hoping not to get on your nerves, but curious to hear from you again. Hope Gema is extra loving towards you these days? I know your comfortable with your arrangement, and that's great But I have to admit, I wish you would tell us one day, that you when Gema came home from work, you just bent her over and penetrated and took her from behind and reminded her that at the end of the day she's still yours. Maybe be a little rough with her. Please, excuse me for letting my fantasy going wild a second. ;) Hope to hear from you soon. It's rather the other way around: she comes from work, bends me over and pegs me with her strapon, reminding me that I am hers. And I love the feeling. Less the dildo in my ass, but seeing her so dominant with me, reassuring me this way that I belong to her and that therefore, we belong together. When she does it, I totally feel loved and I feel ho much I love her. Sorry if this role reversal disappoints you. I am not a sissy and I am not gay either. But I love when she is dominant with me. And I get excited when I think of a strong dominant bull taking her that way (which used to happen in the past; Gerardo is a different kind of dominant). Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:04 pm My wife finally decided to get the boob job done. Her boss, Gerardo, has paid the complete bill. I did accompany both of them to the clinic, but I was never allowed to enter with them to the boob doctor's office and had to stay in the waiting area. I never got to know beforehand what he would be choosing for her and I was quite nervous, but also excited. I had to completely trust him, an almost stranger, but at least I could also rely on my trust in her common sense, knowing that regardless of the promise, she would never allow an aberration. Even so, shouldn't I the husband have to say a word about how I would like her new tits to be? I guess not if you are a cuckold. LOL. He has kept his word and has reorganized the company, upgrading her to a manager. She is now the boss of Mario, a coworker she would like to fuck or as she says it, to pervert him (she has Gerardo's blessing). I don't know if Mario will fall into her trap, but with the new boobs... I pity him. She doesn't want to just fuck him, he wants to twist him. Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:10 pm All the while she was going to the boob doctor with Gerardo in order to decide and prepare, he has made her live another session with his friend Manolo. This was the second time at his pool. The first time she was made to strip topless and had to give him a massage. This time it all started similar, but Gerardo had tasked her with the mission of seducing his friend into sex. She was not allowed to touch his genitals though or to be too explicit about her intentions. Manolo was very aroused, but for inexplicable reasons, he didn't touch her boobs or sex and she failed seducing him. She was quite disappointed having failed Gerardo in this mission. Gerardo did seem to get off on her fruitless efforts and on displaying his domination over her. He made her crawl like a dog, dressed only in her bikini bottoms. And then he made her give him a foot massage, including kissing and licking his toes. Afterwards, he made her crawl towards Manolo to give him the same kind of attention. As I said, they didn't end up fucking, but I find it even more obscene and hot. I will be allowed to be at his house most of the times when my wife visits him. I wonder what he has in store for me. Neither of us, Gerardo nor me, are interested in anything remotely bisexual, but he seems to be such a devil. I am not sure if I am just to stand silently in the corner, or if I have to play the butler or if he has something even more humiliating in mind. Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:49 pm Xalar11 wrote: It took me a while to read your complete thread. It's quite an adventure you're sharing here. Maybe you're a taste too submissive, but as long as it works you, that's the only thing that matters. How do you think will the situation with Gerardo develop with Gema spending even more time? Do you think he will try to dominante you? Didn't you mentioned that Gema said you have a bigger penis, so, from a pure physical standpoint this could be appear quite ridiculous, if he tries. You also mentioned that Gema was improving her english, is she following your thread here? I don't think Gerardo is really interested in dominating me, at least not in any remotely related sexual way. But he might get off on ordering me around, expressing the power he has. I do have the feeling that he gets off on feeling powerful. I mean he for sure enjoys being the boss at work and that's - except for my wife - nothing sexual. So penis size is not really important here. I am stronger and faster as well, so physically he wouldn't have any chance in any aspect. But that's not the point of his power. Anyway, I know that Gema's goal is dominating me more with the help of a bull (which now is Gerardo). I am ok with that. In fact, I am curious about what both of them can offer ME, besides sexual intercourse between them. I am a bit frightened and not totally comfortable with it, but I guess this is understandable. But I do want to play along. A part of me is looking forward. I certainly feel better with me and my relationship with Gema when I am in submissive mode. That's when I feel that I love her most. But although I am opened to being dominated, it's something she or both of them have to wrestle: I cannot just be submissive, I have the need to oppose (at least a bit) and make them earn it. Not sure if that's the case with all subs. Gema can now read English pretty well, but not to the point where she really enjoys it. She understands the meaning, but it takes her some time to digest the sentences. I don't think she is following me here and I would prefer she wouldn't. I need this escape valve and a certain feeling of privacy. Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:54 pm MaxCargo wrote: Great to hear from you again. Of course, I have to admit I'm quite curious, how is it to make love to Gema with her new breasts? And how is her size now? You also told about the possible involvment of this Mario guy in the future, then there is of course the dubious Gerardo, who wants even more time with your wife, and not to forget his friends, the custome in Barcelona. Also the greater workload. I mean, is this all not a bite too much? Isn't the risk that there is not enough "alone time" left just for you and Gema as a married couple? Hope we don't have to wait too long for your next update. Take care. Yes, you have a good point, it might be all too much. Mario is low priority. It's a project of hers, but it is not top in the list. But still, there are a lot of things happening, which leaves us less time for us. The good thing for you guys is that I have "volunteered" to translate her books (she has just launched the second one), to fill up my alone time. The risks are there, but it's also a unique opportunity. How many times does a wife meet a bull that satisfies her on a psychological level? There are many young studs out there with big cocks and great endurance, but quite immature and not really dominant, at least not in a way my wants. I think we have to take the opportunity, while making sure that we have also time for us. The good thing is that now I will be present when she goes seeing Gerardo. It's not alone time with her, but it's good. Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:03 pm Say_Oy wrote: I was wondering how it ended with Manolo - her blog just kind of drifted off to wondering about new levels of submission. I'm glad that you will get to go to Gerardo's. A new adventure for you. I am realizing Gerardo does not communicate intentions but springs things on people. Before reacting to something you might not like take a deep breath and give yourself a minute to think things over. You may want to review some rules / limits with him... or Gema as intermediary if he ignores you. I think he does not understand how you let your wife be used by another man which is why he ignores you. At the same time he obviously gets turned on by having her fuck another man... he just doesn't understand your side since you are submissive. The story with Manolo ended just there, were she finished telling it. Nothing else has happened with him since then. Summarizing for the rest of the folks: Her boss Gerardo took her to his friend's house, to play at the pool. That was the second time. He tasked her with seducing Manolo, but forbade her to be too explicit (e.g. no touching of genitals, unless he made the move). Unbelievable, she failed! It's a weird thing. Why would he refuse. I don't know, but there must be something going on between Gerardo en his best friend Manolo. Then he made her crawl like a dog, give both of them a foot massage, and even made her lick their feets! The worst: she got off on this! How could she? And that's where it ended. After the foot massage, Gerardo and Gema left Manolo's house and nothing has been heard of since from Manolo. But I have the feeling there will be a third part. Yes, I think Gerardo gets off on having people do things and controlling them and the situation. And I think it's not just him controlling her, but also at the same time controlling his friend Manolo. So this might be the key to this weird scene. He doesn't just want her to fuck him in order to show his dominance over her, he somehow wants to control Manolo as well, maybe by showing him that he can fuck her thanks to him. Something like this could be an explanation for what happened. Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:54 pm MaxCargo wrote: Great to hear from you again. Of course, I have to admit I'm quite curious, how is it to make love to Gema with her new breasts? And how is her size now? Well, at the moment I have to be extra careful with her breast. She is using almost 24x7 a special bra, but of course, we have made love with them at plain sight. It's... amazing! There are so firm and round, so protruding, so suggestive... Of course they are fake. Not only I know it, but they are visibly fake! I would never thought I would have said it, but that's not a bad thing, it's good. Gerardo told her, when he chose her implants, that it's about upgrading nature, not imitating nature. And to my shame, I must say that I agree. I am looking forward when she can get rid of these special bras and go braless with a dress or blouse. It really makes a difference now that they are so firm. She was B cup, now she is C cup, possibly on the higher end, but they have to settle yet. But the thing is not just the bigger size, the point is really how they seem to invite to touch and suck them. They are now very... how can I say?... sexual! It's this unnatural attraction that makes them obviously fake, although they are not oversized. Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:51 pm cuckoldfan wrote: Daniel, Hi may I ask you what are the most thrilling parts of being Gemma's cuckold ? She is a beautiful woman what does she like about her life. As long as you both are happy and your trust in each other is in place that is very important. I have read your whole thread and it has been a wild ride . As far as her new boobs go, that would be humiliating for me mostly because very large, medium or very small it don't matter to me , but I want only natural. That is just my choice. No mater what else happens good or not so good enjoy thrills that seem to be one of a kind. Have you found yourself in cuckold heaven very often? There are some many cuckolds out there that would love to be in your place as for me maybe I would but for how long that I don't know. Gemma really loves you I can tell by her blog. CFAN Well, I think one of the most thrilling things is knowing that she is my creation (after all, I incited her to start it and kept on inciting her to become sexually more aggressive and free) and that this creation is now out of my control and acting on its own. It's like I sometimes feel I were Dr. Frankenstein and I am mostly amazed and proud, but also sometimes terrified but what I have created. The thing about her boob job is not the size. It's why she did it and that they are now stinging into the eye, demanding to be touched. It's how they stand out, firm and proud, apparently voicing: I am a hotwife! Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:37 pm I am now allowed to accompany my wife to her boss' house. It's not always, but most of the times. I am happy that she was able to negotiate this deal with him, as I love seeing her. It was being difficult for me to have to live with her stories only. Having said this, it is being very intense and I am having difficulties processing it. She is dominant to me, she is my goddess. But then at his house, I see her crawling towards him, asking to lick his feet, asking him to give him a blowjob. He oftentimes blindfolds and cuffs her. I think one of the reasons he blindfolds her is to prevent her seeing me and reducing my potential influence over her. How can a goddess allow to be treated this way? It's painful for me to see her this way, but I have to admit that it is exciting at the same time. It's a contradictory feeling. Gerardo for the most part totally ignores me. He even deliberately doesn't look at me at all, except a few times when he did, probably by instinct. I have to say that now that I know him in person, I despite him even more. But strange as it is, it just makes it more exciting seeing him dominating my wife, although also somewhat painful for me. My wife has instructed me to prepare the table for dinner, but as I said above, Gerardo mostly ignores me. I am invisible for him. She doesn't want me to be in the way and possibly disturb him. So for example if we stay overnight, I am supposed to have breakfast on my own and prepare it for them and then stay blend into the background. I know she would like things different, but she is afraid to piss him off. He now collars her when she is at his home. Previously, months ago, he had given her a nice choker, which she always wears, except during weekends at our home. It's a non-distinctive jewelry. But now, when at his home, he puts a dog collar on her. Sometimes, when he wants her to dress up for him for dinner, he temporarily replaces the dog collar for the choker. They sit together, like a couple, why I am on the other end of the table. The fist overnight, I slept in the spare room. My wife cuffed me to the bed. That was Gerardo's idea, as I found out later. He wanted me secured, while he could stain her in the master bedroom. I was also in my CB-6000, which was her idea. In fact, I always have to wear it while in his house. She let the door open and I could hear them fucking loud. She was screaming and howling and I actually began to worry for her. These were more than moans. As I learned later, he was squeezing her nipples while she was handcuffed in the back and riding him. She sneaked over to me during the night and straddled me, feeding me her creampie. It was humiliating, after how Gerardo had treated her, but it also it also felt good experiencing her reassuring dominance over me. She was in that moment like a lighthouse to me and little did it matter that she was still handcuffed. Then the next day, after breakfast and shortly before we were about leave, he made her crawl towards him. He lectured her about her responsibilities as a manager in the company and reprimanded her because her last report was incomplete. He reminded her that she had accepted being punished for her performance at work. This was a requirement for her to upgrade her from secretary to manager. She crawled over his knees and he spanked her. He took his time and spanked her until she cried and a bit more. He was lucky that previously he had make my wife handcuff me to the radiator! I talked with my wife afterwards. I was worried that he might have gone too far, but she said she was ok. In fact, she didn't resist him. She said that the tears were not just because of the pain. Rather, she felt liberated from all the stress and tension and that at some point of time it actually started feeling good. Not excitingly good, but liberating and calmly good. Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:55 am Charles wrote: Gemshubby, This is all SO HOT!! I think it is awesome that she made you eat his cum after all that happened. Does he know that she made you do that? Thanks for amazing updates!! If he knows, he prefers to not know it or act as if he didn't. I don't really know if he knows it, but he isn't stupid and my suspect it. He does know that Gema has fed me his creampie previously, when she came back home from a date with him. In fact, he has always negotiated something in return for filling her up shortly before coming back home. So he does know about what Gema does with me. But doing it in his house, that's and entirely different dimension and I believe he would rather not see it and know about it. Which is fine with me. Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:12 am cuckoldfan wrote: Hi Gemshubby, What an asshole he is. Are you still happy and turned on? The cream pie during the night was really special for you and her even if it came from an asshole. I can honestly say I am not sure what I would do in your place. The thing that is sexy about all of this to me is you and her relationship. You would walk across hot coals for her. So many cases of cuckolding I hear it said "Its all about her" but then many to there wives say " what about me" . With you it has always been about her and still is. You are a great submissive cuckold. Yeah quite an asshole. But Gema likes him. The creampie that night wasn't easy. I was handcuffed to the bed. And Gema had her hands cuffed at her back. I only found that out when she came visiting me, I didn't know he had her tied while he was fucking her. It wasn't easy for her to straddle me this way, but she had the determination to do it and she did. Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:36 am DCharles wrote: Was the creampie eating not easy just because of position or because of the thought of what you were actually doing? Just curious Actually both. It was physically difficult for Gema to straddle me, with her hands tied in her back. And for me, it was a mix of feelings. Having heard her screaming loud a couple of minutes before, in a mix of pleasure and pain, but then feeling her confidently face-sitting me, being the usual dominant she is, although she had her hands cuffed... Also, knowing that the creampie came fresh form this old bastard... I felt thoroughly humiliated and turned on at the same time. Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:16 am She is currently telling and interesting story in her blog. This happened during the night after Halloween. Gerardo took her to a party, thematically focused on the 1920s. Unfortunately I wasn't allowed to be present. She arrived at his home in the afternoon, sharp on time as she usually does, especially if it is about him. She knew she would be going to this party, but she didn't know much more. He told her she didn't need a costume, because he had already taken care of. When she arrived, he made her undress and handcuffed her, with her hands in her back. He inserted a vibrator in her vagina and made her sit down, facing in opposed direction of the entrance of the living room. Shortly after, the door bell rang. Gerardo invited that person in. She didn't barely talk, just a few words to confirm the theme. It was a woman's voice and Gema thought she knew her from somewhere, but she couldn't identify her. The woman was working at her back with her hair, preparing it for a short wig. Gema was having the feeling that it could be someone from the office. She was quite shocked that a colleague would see her this way, but the vibrator must have been having its effects, because she didn't complain. When the woman moved forward to do her make up, she suddenly realized who it was, just a fraction of a second before she saw her. It was the women from the beauty shop, where Gerardo sends her to from time to time. It was still a shock for her, but at least that woman had seen her naked already before. Gerardo's friend Manolo was also present at the party. Gerardo dared her to seduce him. As before, a direct approach was prohibited. For example, she could not tell Manolo directly that she wanted to have sex with him. Neither could he touch his genitals or force him to touch her. Gema turned the dare into a bet. If she won, she wanted Gerardo to be more involved in "my education", instead of mostly ignoring me when I am at his house. In exchange, Gerardo asked her to drop Mario, her co-worker which she wants to fuck, if she lost. Instead of helping her, Gerardo actually seemed to be boycotting her efforts of seducing his friend, even though it had been his idea. He challenged his friend to flirt and hook up with a young girl at the party. And Manolo apparently succeeded and they all ended up at his house: Manolo and the Girl, Gerardo and my wife. She hasn't told me yet the ending of the story. She said I should wait for the tumblr update. :( But what I know is that they played the bottle game. You know, someone makes the bottle spin and the person it points to when it stops spinning, has to do something. They were drinking tequila shots and the dare consisted of licking the salt from someone else's body and taking the lemon from its mouth. On Manolo's turn, he made the girl lick the salt from my wife's breast. She was already topless that that time. Since they were sitting on the floor, the girl had taken off her dress, to be more comfortable and to avoid damaging it. And before my wife could say anything, the girl had quickly lifted her dress and had helped her out of it. Unlike the girl, my wife wasn't wearing any bra, as this was not part of Gerardo's costume for her. I don't know yet what else has happened. It's ruining my nerves, desperately wanting to know the end, but my wife insists that I have to wait for her tumblr update. She knows how to make me be permanently excited. Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:35 pm MaxCargo wrote: Oh man, this all happened nearly two weeks ago, isn't it a little "cruel" of Gema to make you wait that long. ;) Seriously, if you really wanted to know she would tell you or am I completely wrong about that? Another thing, does she actually spend more time with Gerardo now, as he wanted when suggested the surgery? Yeah, she loves writing and teasing, including me. I could insist and try to get this information earlier, but I know better. Even if I succeeded and she told me, I would have to pay some kind of penalty. She doesn't like to be pressured by me. She loves me submissive and accepting. I do ask her softly, that's within the limits, but I don't really insist. And so far she has only answered me with a broad smile. Yes, there have been more overnighters at Gerardo's house now, but I have been invited most of the times. I don't know what he does with her the times I am not there. This is a rule she resurrected from about a year ago. When she started her tumblr blog, she limited the information I was getting to what she would write on her blog. After several months of teasing me this way, she fortunately abandoned that rule. It was exciting, in deed, but it limited communication. Now, since I am most of the times present, she has resurrected the rule and won't tell me what happens when I am not there. I might eventually learn via her tumblr. I hate and love it at the same time. She knows for sure how to tease me and have me looking several times per day at her blog. Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:39 pm I am now unemployed. I got a nice compensation and I have unemployment money from the government, so it's not a completely bad situation, at least in financial terms. However, I feel really bad about not being the provider any longer. I had already felt that way when my wife started with Gerardo. Back then, she was already earning more money than me, and indirectly, Gerardo was filling the role of the provider. Now it's evidentially even worse. I try to compensate by trying to make myself useful by translating her book and taking care of the house chores. I love her so much, I support her, but sometimes I have the feeling that I am not up to the task, that I am not significant any longer. I partially feel relief because of it. I felt some strange relief when she took her first lover, as that put away the pleasure to satisfy her sexually. Not that she hadn't been satisfied with me, but I always knew there were better lovers out there. And maybe I also have a compulsive need to masturbate. And now, that I am not the provider any longer, I do feel partially relieved as well. I still feel bad about it, but there is something positive in it. I know, that's not right, but it is as it is. I wonder if that's because I have become over time more and more submissive towards her, maybe even towards Gerardo. She is loving and supporting all the time, caring and understanding. But sometimes she can be quite a bitch as well. I mostly love it when she is in bitch mode, though. For example, when she tells me that she is going to tell Gerardo when I did something wrong, as if he was going to discipline me. It hasn't happened yet and I don't necessarily look forward to it, but I accept that sometimes the thought of it makes me horny, although most of the times it scares me. Yes, I see that this could be a possible scenario, at least if it just depended on her. As it seems, she has taken the decision to intensify her relationship this year with Gerardo. She has been reflecting on it, not without many doubts, but has decided to move forward. At the same time, she is still toying with her employee, Mario. She has fucked him already two times. He is very good-looking and very cocky. Apparently, she has a project on her own with him and wants to tame him. For example, she has made him wear her pink panties, before allowing him to fuck her in the car at the company's Xmas party. I wonder if that project of hers won't collide in the future with what Gerardo want's for her. By the way, after she fucked him in the car, she made me tie his cum-filled condom to my chastity device and made me wear it for the rest of the party, while I had to dance with her female colleagues. It was quite humiliating, but it was the kind of fun I love. The only thing I regret is that I haven't gotten to see her with Mario. That guy doesn't know I know. It was funny seeing him talk to her and me at the party, always cocking, as if he was superior, while it was me, who had the superior knowledge. New Year's Eve has been a kind of a break point. As I said, she has come to decision that she wants to advance in her relationship with Gerardo. Apparently, one of the things Gerardo was demanding was a threesome with another woman. She already had a threesome with him and a girl they met at the Halloween party, but they only orally served his dick. He wanted more and he wanted it to be a steadier thing between them. Now, my wife is not bisexually inclined, as far as I know. So this has been troubling her, ever since Gerardo asked for it. I don't know how she could be so naive and think that being submissive to him, he wouldn't want that kind of thing. It's the number one male fantasy! Anyway, she decided to go for it and fully please him in 2018. So we went to a disco to party and met this girl again (she is in her twenties, my wife is in her forties and Gerardo is in his early sixties, so that quite a troupe). The bastard had stuck a remotely controlled vibrator in her and was making her horny during all night. The disco was an old theater and has several levels with balconies. After we had danced and chatted, Gerardo took them downstairs to the main dance floor and commanded me to stay in the upper floor. This asshole didn't want me to watch, as my wife would be making out with this beautiful girl (she looks to me like a famous soft porn star - in her younger years - called Justine Joli). I tried to watch from the balcony, but I was too far away to really see anything. Anyway, she told me that Gerardo had put a collar on both, that he fixed a short chain between them, basically forcing them to keep their faces, and for that matter, their mouths close. She said that they kissed, while the vibrator was rumbling between her legs. For me it's a love and hate thing with him. I mean, I do appreciate that now I am included somehow. I am at his house and watch them do in the living room, although I am not allowed into the bed room. Is has started to give me orders, instead of ignoring me. That's good and bad at the same time. For example, telling me that I was not allowed to watch my wife making out with that other girl, was that something hot or should I be truly pissed? I honestly don't know. This relationship is not simple and neither is my mind. Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:21 pm We both want me back to work, but we are in no hurry. Fantasy-wise, it would be a turn on to become her houseboy, but financially it wouldn’t be wise; it would in fact make her mode dependent on Gerardo, than what would be wise. The situatauin is already delicate as it is. Mario is a sidekick, yeah good term. It’s a little distraction a fun project of her. But there is more to it than it may seem. I believe it’s also an act of rebellion against her submissivenes towards Gerardo, at least on a subconscious level. It’s not casual that she has started this at the peak of her submission to him, don’t you think so? As of me, I can cope with it as long as this is just a small project of hers. But to be honest, it doesn’t exactly make me feel good, that first zig have been replaced as the provider and now, I may get (partially) replaced as her pussyboy. It’s exciting as hell, but it also puts a big emotional strain. Even if you rationalize it, subconscoiusness is still following its own emotions. MaxCargo - Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:06 pm First, I'm glad to hear from you again. It's not taken for granted. So, a big thank you for continuing and sharing your adventure here. I'm very sorry to hear about your job situation. It's tough and kind of depressing. Something like this is a blow to everyone's ego, no matter how self-confident that person appears. I know it's only words and it doesn't help you much: But keep your head up :) . I wish you the best in this situation. Are there any potential job opportunities? If so, you should definitely go through with it, I think you agree with me it's a matter of self-worth. I guess, the wage payment in most cases isn't even that important. Considering this, you have said you feel sometimes not to be significant any longer. Have you expressed this feelings towards Gema? How is her reaction on this? You're correct that's not right and it sounds a little concerning for me. Considering the Gema/Gerardo-situation, I think I understand your conflicting feelings about this, at least partially. I assume it's sexual stimulating for you, but emotionally it simply doesn't feel "right". Maybe it's even hurting you emotionally? You said she wants to advance the relationship. Can you explain a little further what this means? In general, I would advice you to be very careful about this. Especially, you should be careful about any attempts of Gerardo to humiliate you further. And you should cleary reject any development this direction. I know, Gema is the dominant. That’s maybe the main dynamic of your and Gema's sexual-relationship. I get that. But I can't imagine, that Gema (or any other wife in that regard) wants you, her husband, to become a complete submissive wimp. I mean, I don't doubt Gema's love for you, but aren't you afraid she will loose a great deal of respect for you, if you're acting all too much submissively all the time, especially in your sexual relation? Therefore, I would strongly recommend to you, for example, not follow through with every of Gerardo's "whims". If you want to watch Gema making out with another woman, then simply do it the next time. Don’t be a complete pushover, at least not all the time ;). Sorry for rambling around here and excuse me, if I was too intrusive about your affairs. But your and Gema's "journey" is quite captivating. Sometimes I'm a little worried about you. I hope you're able to answer my questions, at least some of them. Hope to hear from you soon. Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:57 am MaxCargo wrote: Considering this, you have said you feel sometimes not to be significant any longer. Have you expressed this feelings towards Gema? How is her reaction on this? Of course I have. She says that I am foolish, that she understands me, but yet I am foolish, because she loves me and wouldn't be able to live without me. Shae says that she wouldn't be able to do all those things without me. She said that I don't need to be concerned about brining money back home, that I have been doing this for the most part of our relationship and that being unemployed is no shame. She said that she is positive that I will find a great job soon, but that I don't need to feel pressed to rush it. She also says that sexually, I give her what no other man can give her. It's regardless of how we have sex together, it's doing it together has a special meaning for her. It's good to hear those words, but as I expressed before, rationalizing doesn't always help to cope with feelings. I have no doubt about her love towards me. MaxCargo wrote: Considering the Gema/Gerardo-situation, I think I understand your conflicting feelings about this, at least partially. I assume it's sexual stimulating for you, but emotionally it simply doesn't feel "right". Maybe it's even hurting you emotionally? You said she wants to advance the relationship. Can you explain a little further what this means? It does excite me, I couldn't deny it. And that's the issue, because if it wouldn't excite me, things would be much easier: I would simply ask her to stop. But although I sometimes hate this, I oftentimes crave it. MaxCargo wrote: You said she wants to advance the relationship. Can you explain a little further what this means? Basically, she wants to overcome her inner barriers. Specifically, Gerardo has been pushing her to have a threesome with a girl, but she is not into girls. She has been thinking about it, deciding what to do, and has come to the conclusion that she wants to further submit to Gerardo, that she wants to experience that. To put it straight: she has decided that she wants him to be a daddy dom and that she wants to be his sub. She has proposed herself to try to experience whatever he proposes. MaxCargo wrote: In general, I would advice you to be very careful about this. Especially, you should be careful about any attempts of Gerardo to humiliate you further. And you should cleary reject any development this direction. I know, Gema is the dominant. That’s maybe the main dynamic of your and Gema's sexual-relationship. I get that. But I can't imagine, that Gema (or any other wife in that regard) wants you, her husband, to become a complete submissive wimp. I mean, I don't doubt Gema's love for you, but aren't you afraid she will loose a great deal of respect for you, if you're acting all too much submissively all the time, especially in your sexual relation? I wouldn't say that I am a wimp. I know, you didn't mean any offense, and I don't feel offended, I just want to elaborate a bit. I am not passive. Gema wouldn't like me this way. I oftentimes take the initiative in sex and push her to bed. It's just that sometimes she lets me do (I don't dominate her, we just have normal, passionate sex), but other times she would flip me over, take charge and spank me and/or peg me. But I am not a wimp that simply says yes to everything and pathecially waits for her to take the initiative. However, I am obedient and if she decides something, I tell her my opinion (unless we are in game mode), but accept her decision. And with regards to Gerardo, she has asked me to obey him, so in that respect, I see this as an extension of hers. So for me, it's not like he humiliates me; instead it comes from her. In any case, I prefer that he humiliates me rather than he excludes me and just lets me watch or listen. It feels better if I am somehow part of it. Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:22 pm MaxCargo wrote: Thank you for your response and giving us a better insight. It's really appreciated. It's always important to get the reassurance of her love for you. I guess Gema is aware if this. But still aren't you both concerned Gema could push you too far? I strongly assume she would notice, if you would feel that way? Can you tell us a little more about what happened on New Year's Eve? As I said above, New Year's eve we went all three to a disco and he made my wife make out on the dance floor with another girl. I wasn't able to see it from where I was standing, but apparently they kissed passionately, danced together tightly, fondled their buttocks, etc. Back to Gerardo's home, I was hoping to see some action, but Gerardo instead asked my wife to blindfold me, which she did without hesitating, then she cuffed me as well. I sat on a chair and could only hear how they were making out in the living room. I heard sloppy sounds of kissing, both girls moaning... I would have been rock hard weren't it for my chastity device. My cock trying to break free hurt. I also heard some loud spanks and my wife moaning again. I remember that before going to the disco, Gerardo had messaged her with a picture, warning her that she would receive a spanking that night. But I never thought that was going to be in front of that other girl; we both thought it would happen before leaving for the disco. I don't know exactly what happened, as I couldn't see and and because my wife won't tell me. I guess Gerardo has instructed her to keep quiet. After some time, she moved me to the guestroom, undressed me and tied me to the bed. She took off my blindfold and I could see that her eyes were gleaming. She then kissed me deeply and disappeared to the master bedroom, leaving my door open, and I guess hers as well. When she turned away, I saw that her ass was red. A few hours later, she came over to see me. She undid my chastity device and wanked me off, edging me, but she didn't allow me to cum. She went back to Gerardo and the girl. I heard some more moanings and after some time, I must have fallen asleep. I don't know how much time had passed, but my wife came back to put my chastity device back on, kissed me and disappeared again to the master bedroom. One more thing that's probably worth commenting: When at his house, my wife always accompanies Gerardo to the bathroom. He has now the habit of making her hold his pee-pee while he is peeing. I find it erotical, but disgusting at the same time. I don't know what to think about it. In any case, while she was with him in the bathroom, the girl sat on my lap. I was blindfolded, but I could feel that she was half-naked. She whispered some dirty things into my ear, which would have made me have an instant boner, weren't it for the damned chastity device. She even touched my crotch to feel it. When Gerardo and my wife returned, she moved away from me, as nothing had happened. Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:03 pm Xalar11 wrote: Wow, this sounds quite intense. I'm a little intrigued about this young girl. Do you know, if Gema's has seen her sitting in your lap and dirty talking to you? If so, didn't it make Gema a little jealous to see another woman close to you? Of course I don't know, but I imagine that Gema has quite a fiery temperament and maybe is a little possessive when it comes to you ;)? I don't know if she saw her sitting on my lap; she hasn't told me. But I do know she saw her talking into my ear in the disco, while she was dancing with Gerardo. She looked at me somewhat pissed when she came back from the dance floor with Gerardo and throwed a killing look at the girl. Yes, she is quite possessive about her men, not only about me. I don't think she likes sharing Gerardo either. Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:05 pm desertsub wrote: My first wife had that same fetish of wanting to hold my penis while I was peeing! She never explained it to me, only saying it was something she just liked to do. Except that in this case it isn't her fetish, but his. I believe she found it a bit disgusting at first, but now she seems to be happy doing this for him. Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:09 pm Sorry for my absence. We are fine and we are continuing our adventure. My wife is away with Gerardo in the Swiss Alps for skiing, like about a year ago. That's what she thinks, but Gerardo told me at the airport before leaving that he will take her to some special party. He has taken her phone away, so I cannot communicate with her and I don't know what really is going on. I can of course call him for emergency, but he doesn't want me bragging around. It's his vacations with her and he wants privacy. I am normally not the guy who would immediately miss his wife when separated for some couple of days, but this whole situation of knowing and not knowing is really bugging me. I really miss her already. Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:18 pm MaxCargo wrote: Another thing, when you both return from Gerardo's home, how are you dealing with eachother? I mean, how long does it take before you and Gema reconnect and make love to eachother? Is Gema extra affectionate with you then? It depends on her mood. Sometimes she is extra affectionate as you say it, some other time she plays submissive and lets me experiment what Gerardo feels, and some other times she is in boss mode. When she is in boss mode after being with Gerardo, she is not bitchy with me at all, she is rather demanding but sweet. Those times, she might take my ass, but she does it tenderly. And when she's finished, she would flip me around and fuck me conventionally until I come in her. I love her in any of her moods, but I have to admit that although I do enjoy seeing her behaving submissively (like crawling towards me), I actually love it when she is in boss mode, mostly because it makes it easier for me to digest the previous experience at Gerardo's house. It's just easier for me when I feel that she is completely in charge. Maybe it's because it makes me feel less guilty for letting all this happens. Unfortunately reclaiming doesn't always happen and when it does, it's not always immediately after arriving home. Sometimes we are just both tired. Sometimes my daughter is around and demands some attention too. Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:54 am Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:24 am Posts: 150 elina wrote: Thanks Gemshubby, So good to see that you are still happy. Have you made progress in finding a new job or are you now starting to enjoy being a house-husband so much that this is becoming less important to you. I really hope you will share with us what happened at Gerardos party when you find out. Sincerely elina I get two years of unemployement benefit from the state, which is between 50% and 60% of my former salary. Therefore, I am not in hurry. I am rather thinking along the lines of creating my own company. At the moment, it's just a project I am looking into it. I haven't decided yet whta to do. Gerardo's party: He took her to a Swiss "chalet" to a sex party. It was maledom themed. It started with a regular dinner. Men were dressed in in tailcoats and that kind of stuff. Women were sporting elegant, but daring dresses. After dinner, they all danced. At some point, women were made to undress and the dance continued, with the women naked and the men clothed. Sometimes men would step back to watch and let the women dance with each other. That was the warming-up. After the dance, women went all fours, aligned in a row, with their butts in the air. What seemed like the organizer of the party and presumably the owner of the chalet got the privilege to "test the waters". He put his dick inside each woman's pussy and fucked each of them for a few minutes (Gema told me that he put on a new condom between each fuck). After the last woman in the row got his dick, the real party started. All kinds of crazy stuff happened. One woman for example got publicly whipped, as part of some kind of demonstration. Gema got fucked by some other men and was made to lick pussy too. It was a surprise party. Gema didn't know beforehand. What still baffles me is how willingly she complied to Gerardo's wishes. Wisher - Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:53 am GemsHubby wrote: After the dance, women went all fours, aligned in a row, with their butts in the air. What seemed like the organizer of the party and presumably the owner of the chalet got the privilege to "test the waters". He put his dick inside each woman's pussy and fucked each of them for a few minutes (Gema told me that he put on a new condom between each fuck). After the last woman in the row got his dick, the real party started. Sounds like a cool scene. Did she mention how many? In my mind I picture 6 or 7 at least. Quote: Gema got fucked by some other men Again, did she say how many? Quote: It was a surprise party. Gema didn't know beforehand. What still baffles me is how willingly she complied to Gerardo's wishes. Sounds like he has her trained well. Do you wonder if she would participate in that scene at your direction?