[Pete Andrews aka xleglover] Hotwife
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O_P_T
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One of the comments to that claimed that he copied sections from another author called "mannydcamp"I talked to someone that was a big expert on his stories, can't remember who that was. A bunch of the stories in an alternate universe or redone version. (that's him or robertl?) Something like that.
xleglover says it right here too
Author's note: This is a Jen/Mike story in an alternative universe from the "He Fucked My Girl" to "Cheating and Rivals" series.
His literotica page is here if anyone wants to check his stuff out.
T2002
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This is the original “Faithfull Wife's Fall From Grace (BooK 1-4)” that I copy from ourhotwives.org.
fantafan
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Excellent, thanks. Well I guess I got my answer, and I'm unhappy with it. The ending of #4 is ugly as far as I'm concerned. Not sure I want to read the new series if this is the way it goes. And yes, the start of #4 is the same as the Amazon series #9. I'd post a spoiler here for others but obviously anybody who wants can download and do the same. For me these are characters that live in my head--having read at least two similar stories across many books and I don't like seeing something like "had become a cumdump" about the woman. Its fine even hot with some stupid short jerk off fantasy story, but this is not cool.
fantafan
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Correspondingly the ending of "Cheating and Rivals" is completely different. But then the whole story in that series is different. Lots of the same characters, lots of the same beats, etc. But its a "nice" ending where once again Jen & Mike are happy and together at least for a time, despite the shit that happens.
KidneyCracker
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harsher outcomes are definitely easier to accept in shorter stroke stories. In longer works, they are upsetting and can even be jarring.
appissues
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Cool. I was confused as to if you read it or not. Thanks. I guess, I'll wait for someone else to share it
appissues
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I scanned through first two book and they are basically the same books he published on Amazon. That made me read the fourth one and it's ok. I was hoping we would get something closer to a combination of Life After We and Cheating and Rivals where Jen had to actually deal with Mike not being her lapdog and other women actively pursuing Mike as she tries to make amends for her previous behaviour. That's not at all what we got, but it's a decent story.
I guess that's my eternal gripe with Pete Andrews as a writer. The cuckold parts are well written, but the emotional dynamics are lacklustre. Mike never stops being a cuckold addict that easily forgets and forgives without any emotional self-realisation beyond yelling and having the emotional capacity of a horny teenager desperate to keep his first gf. And Jen never really deals with the consequences of what she does, especially the possibility of losing Mike forever. She just apologies, feeds Mike's cuckold addiction, and everything is magically fixed. She never puts the emotional labour. Sex scenes are hot, though.
EDIT: I'm editing my post because I found an interview Pete Andrews did on ourhotwives.org where he explains that Faithful Wife is not a spiritual rewriting of the "alpha series," but rather a separate thing. He is planning to rewrite the "alpha series" (he fuck my girl, all in my head, etc.) eventually. Fans of that series will have to wait.
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bd205oh
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Is there a story by Pete Andrews aka xleglover that Amazon has not released? Including a story with a changed ending or content. If there is, I will request it. The attached file is a similar story in Korea. Read it using a translator.
The title of the story is a smiling wife
The title of the story is a smiling wife
midir
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please upload the translated one
fantafan
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I liked Faithfull Wife Falls From Grace (Amazon) books 7 thru 8. He leaves her, hands her divorce papers, she pursues him, trying to get him not to hate her. Its messy and imperfect but it works for me. They end up together again, decide to have a baby together and THE STORY ENDS. Except that now there's a number 9 and from Part 4 above we know roughly how that goes--she sluts herself out, gets pregnant on purpose with a black guy's baby, does gangbangs with random dudes, etc etc. Not fucking interested.
hahaboy1248
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Yeah it went off the rails. The first baby also wasn't his and she started doing drugs too because of course the black guy is a drug dealer.
KidneyCracker
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aren't they all?
Lena White and Peter G. Johnson frequently go down dark paths like this, but they go even harder from what I remember. KT Morrison can kinda go that heavy too, but I don't read that author much. My Life Coach says it's bad for my health.
appissues
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I will disagree with this idea that Jen pursues Mike in Faithful Wife. Nothing changes in Jen's life after Mike divorces her. In fact, her life is going great. The only thing she does is fuck Mike once, then feed into his cuckold fantasies one weekend during Allie's wedding and lastly said she lied about not wanting to be married to Mike. That's her "pursue" of Mike. It literally happened what I said, Jen feeds into Mike's cuckold addiction and he forgets and forgives (and there is a lot Mike quickly forgives after one weekend and a chat with Allie). Meanwhile, she sacrificed absolutely nothing or risk nothing to get together with Mike. If Mike had said no, she gets back together with Scott and her life had carried on with zero downsides.
Ironically, the epilogue of book 8 would have served better as part of the story. All those conversations they had would have been the way in which Jen does the emotional labour to get together with Mike. Additionally, Mike acknowledging that his inability to respect his boundaries and walk away is a problem that he needs to address before even considering the idea of dealing with Jen again would have also helped.
I get that Pete Andrews is niche writer, and like I said, the cuckold part of his writing is superb. But outside of that, there is no real emotional payoffs for their characters' behaviours. Even in book 9, Jen isn't really handling the fallout of her divorce and reconciliation, all she does is feed into Mike's cuckolding and everything is fine. Meanwhile, Mike is not showing any growth as a character either. If anything, he becomes a single note character that only thinks about cuckolding after knowing how easily Jen can hide things from him and mask her behaviour so Mike doesn't suspect anything. That's why I said Book 9 is decent, but it's not really worth the read.
EDIT: I wanted to add that I referenced Life After We because I think that's Pete Andrew's best attempt at holding characters accountable and having Jen face the reckoning of her actions by watching Mike live the life she feared he could live without her. Jen's biggest insecurity in the "alpha series" or "main series," is the notion that she is holding Mike back with her attitude and jealousy. So that book is all her fears becoming real. It's also the closest I saw Mike grow as a person and partially understand that he isn't as worthless as he feels with Jen, and that he can actually be happy with or without her.
It's not a perfect book, but there was some tangible character growth. Moreover, at the end Jen is the one that is emotionally vulnerable enough to beg for forgiveness once she thinks Mike is set on moving on with Jasmine Kelly (someone who is a better match for Mike, imho). Lastly, the cuckolding and all the sex in that book is more logical as it weaves with them talking and processing their pain.
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fantafan
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Kt does that but also not. Summer Swap was/is wonderful but I'm doubting she'll ever finish it. One of her problems. There are others of hers I'm quite fond of as well, though of course Devil in the Water or whatever it's called is incredibly heavy and obviously her most famous work.
fantafan
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I liked Book 7 and 8. He takes the ring off her hand and leaves her. Tells her he hates her. Files divorce papers. Yes he lets her back into his life in a pretty fucked up way. But at one point she kicks her lover out and tells him its over. Then pursues Mike. They get back together, talk about having Children and THE END.
Whatever, to each his own. I got the angst I wanted plus the redemption arc. Works for me. Its why I like Vivian White's writing, at least "Cuckold Consquences" (hopeful it will end well) and Friendship's Edge.
Whatever, to each his own. I got the angst I wanted plus the redemption arc. Works for me. Its why I like Vivian White's writing, at least "Cuckold Consquences" (hopeful it will end well) and Friendship's Edge.
appissues
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I'm happy it worked for you. Like I said, the emotional aspect didn't work for me because it's just too flat. However, the cuckold aspect was fantastic. That said, thank you for introducing me to Vivian White. I love their writing. Cuckold Consequences is amazing from an emotional perspective as well as the sex scenes. There seems to be a real weight and a real lost from both main characters. I'm happy with whatever ending we get. It's a great story
rmdoff
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Does anyone have? Would be much appreciated!