[Lucius Logan] Pleasure & Money

[Gnaparelli]

This comic is a really wasted opportunity, mom's character is (was) great, and i loved her in her housewife outfits, normal, everyday-look, just a mature woman in her house, doing chores, that is sexy as hell at least for me. Unfortunately everything was kind of ruined by these stupid, whorish looks during photo-sessions, and by entire son's behavior, that was just too much. This latest development, with her looking like a younger girl, is just plain stupid, anti-sexy, cock-softening.... i mean, who amongs those interested in incest theme, would like to see mom looking like younger girl? That's beyond me, completely absurd. Again, every hint, even a slight one, to domination/bdsm for me is also bullshit, i hate it in porn. The worst thing here are those ugly, exaggerated outfits, i love the opposite stuff - just a ordinary, everyday look, decent mom and housewife who get seduced and fucked, that's the best development. Too bad, character is perfect for mom, that other one also (is her name Emily?). Hopefully this "cosplay" bullshit will stop, and mom will look mature again, and in next comic artist will create realistic moms, with realistic outfits, and good, taboo/incest sex stories.

 

[Lucius Logan 3D]

This comic is a really wasted opportunity, mom's character is (was) great, and i loved her in her housewife outfits, normal, everyday-look, just a mature woman in her house, doing chores, that is sexy as hell at least for me. Unfortunately everything was kind of ruined by these stupid, whorish looks during photo-sessions, and by entire son's behavior, that was just too much. This latest development, with her looking like a younger girl, is just plain stupid, anti-sexy, cock-softening.... i mean, who amongs those interested in incest theme, would like to see mom looking like younger girl? That's beyond me, completely absurd. Again, every hint, even a slight one, to domination/bdsm for me is also bullshit, i hate it in porn. The worst thing here are those ugly, exaggerated outfits, i love the opposite stuff - just a ordinary, everyday look, decent mom and housewife who get seduced and fucked, that's the best development. Too bad, character is perfect for mom, that other one also (is her name Emily?). Hopefully this "cosplay" bullshit will stop, and mom will look mature again, and in next comic artist will create realistic moms, with realistic outfits, and good, taboo/incest sex stories.

I think that instead of just coming here to complain about what you like or don’t like in the story, you should try to understand or ask why that’s happening in that specific story.

But since I stopped by here to read your complaint, I’ll address a few points:

1. Right now, I have 05 stories in progress, and with each one, I try to make sure it isn’t a copy of any of my other stories, especially ones that are currently in progress.

2. - MNG = This is a story with a more romantic tone for those who enjoy it, where the plot focuses on the relationship between a BROTHER/SISTER, and later the MOM joins them.

- HW = is a story with less emotional exposure, and I’d say it has the tags HAREM, MOM, AUNTIES, COUSIN/SISTER, GRANDMOM.

- WNMT = is a story with less emotional depth than MNG but more than HW, focusing on MOM and a bit of COUSIN.

- BAD = a story featuring MOM with an opening scene involving COUSIN, but which will focus on MOM.

3. As for this “PLEASURE & MONEY” story, it originally started as a story that a former subscriber to my websites asked me to make for him. In other words, he chose everything, including the narrative text, character dialogue, expressions, clothing, and settings.
So if someone pays for an exclusive service and the artist accepts the job, they’ll create something as close as possible to what the client is asking for, which was the case at the beginning of the story!
Then, at some point, this client of mine gave me permission to post his story on my websites, but since the content and dialogue were a bit more heavy than what you usually see on my sites, I made some changes to the dialogue to tone it down and included more images for smoother transitions between scenes.
In other words, just as you’re CRITICIZING THE STORY, many others love it and even want even heavier content. (This is one of the stories my subscribers like best just the way it is.)

So, of course, if you paid for a subscription, your opinion would definitely have a big influence on the stories.

Become a supporter:
https://subscribestar.adult/lucius-logan-3d-art
https://www.patreon.com/cw/LuciusLogan
https://luciuslogan3d.fanbox.cc/

 

[Lucius Logan 3D]

This comic is a really wasted opportunity, mom's character is (was) great, and i loved her in her housewife outfits, normal, everyday-look, just a mature woman in her house, doing chores, that is sexy as hell at least for me. Unfortunately everything was kind of ruined by these stupid, whorish looks during photo-sessions, and by entire son's behavior, that was just too much. This latest development, with her looking like a younger girl, is just plain stupid, anti-sexy, cock-softening.... i mean, who amongs those interested in incest theme, would like to see mom looking like younger girl? That's beyond me, completely absurd. Again, every hint, even a slight one, to domination/bdsm for me is also bullshit, i hate it in porn. The worst thing here are those ugly, exaggerated outfits, i love the opposite stuff - just a ordinary, everyday look, decent mom and housewife who get seduced and fucked, that's the best development. Too bad, character is perfect for mom, that other one also (is her name Emily?). Hopefully this "cosplay" bullshit will stop, and mom will look mature again, and in next comic artist will create realistic moms, with realistic outfits, and good, taboo/incest sex stories.

And just one more question: how many artists do you currently support?

I always support at least one artist a month, even if it’s just with $5.00.

After all, I don't think that amount is going to make anyone richer or poorer, right?

 

[Nippur]

I think that instead of just coming here to complain about what you like or don’t like in the story, you should try to understand or ask why that’s happening in that specific story.

But since I stopped by here to read your complaint, I’ll address a few points:

1. Right now, I have 05 stories in progress, and with each one, I try to make sure it isn’t a copy of any of my other stories, especially ones that are currently in progress.

2. - MNG = This is a story with a more romantic tone for those who enjoy it, where the plot focuses on the relationship between a BROTHER/SISTER, and later the MOM joins them.

- HW = is a story with less emotional exposure, and I’d say it has the tags HAREM, MOM, AUNTIES, COUSIN/SISTER, GRANDMOM.

- WNMT = is a story with less emotional depth than MNG but more than HW, focusing on MOM and a bit of COUSIN.

- BAD = a story featuring MOM with an opening scene involving COUSIN, but which will focus on MOM.

3. As for this “PLEASURE & MONEY” story, it originally started as a story that a former subscriber to my websites asked me to make for him. In other words, he chose everything, including the narrative text, character dialogue, expressions, clothing, and settings.
So if someone pays for an exclusive service and the artist accepts the job, they’ll create something as close as possible to what the client is asking for, which was the case at the beginning of the story!
Then, at some point, this client of mine gave me permission to post his story on my websites, but since the content and dialogue were a bit more heavy than what you usually see on my sites, I made some changes to the dialogue to tone it down and included more images for smoother transitions between scenes.
In other words, just as you’re CRITICIZING THE STORY, many others love it and even want even heavier content. (This is one of the stories my subscribers like best just the way it is.)

So, of course, if you paid for a subscription, your opinion would definitely have a big influence on the stories.

Become a supporter:
https://subscribestar.adult/lucius-logan-3d-art
https://www.patreon.com/cw/LuciusLogan
https://luciuslogan3d.fanbox.cc/

So, of course, if you paid for a subscription, your opinion would definitely have a big influence on the stories.

Suble

 

[Lucius Logan 3D]

So, of course, if you paid for a subscription, your opinion would definitely have a big influence on the stories.

Suble

Of course, within a certain context, yes.

For example, if a subscriber makes a suggestion that makes sense within a particular story, I usually conduct a few polls to ask subscribers for their opinions, and if the vast majority agrees, I try to incorporate it into the story as much as possible.

 

[pazzdan]

Well,as subsciber of lucius logan I can talk

Lucius has few defects
First,is too expensive for 20 usd months you have pratically just one comic because the others two have only 20 pages month
So a total of only 100 page each month but only spending 20 usd montly,if you pay 10 usd just 40 pages montly !
Second
He has a very irregular way to post comics because are often suspended for at least one or two months.
Is the most expensive of the 6 artist I m following and nobody know which comic next month will be suspended.
I m a fam of MNG but in October is cancelled I do not know when back and,once more,LL post just 100 pages month,a very small amount for 20usd
About comics some are good , some aren t

 

[Lucius Logan 3D]

Well,as subsciber of lucius logan I can talk

Lucius has few defects
First,is too expensive for 20 usd months you have pratically just one comic because the others two have only 20 pages month
So a total of only 100 page each month but only spending 20 usd montly,if you pay 10 usd just 40 pages montly !

First of all, thank you for having been my subscriber, thank you so much for that! But what you’re saying about me, I’d say it’s not entirely true!

1. Every artist has their own way of working, whether it’s the unique quality of their images or texts, the amount of content they produce, or the price they charge for it.
So, to start with, if the artist doesn’t believe in or value their own work, it’ll be harder for others to believe in it!
And I follow others artists too, and I know that some post more or less content than I do, but that goes back to what I said earlier: everyone has their own way of working.

Second
He has a very irregular way to post comics because are often suspended for at least one or two months.
Is the most expensive of the 6 artist I m following and nobody know which comic next month will be suspended.
I m a fam of MNG but in October is cancelled I do not know when back and,once more,LL post just 100 pages month,a very small amount for 20usd
About comics some are good , some aren t

Second point: for those of you who have been following me for a long time, I’ve always made it clear that you could contact me, either through my websites or on my Discord, to clarify any questions you might have.

I don’t know if your subscription is still active, on which website, or what your subscriber name is, but have you ever tried to contact me to ask this question or any other similar question? Like, why story X or Y was put on hold or will be put on hold?

In MAY 2026, more specifically in this public post, I explained how the website would operate from that point on. In other words, I’ve never hidden anything from anyone.

https://subscribestar.adult/posts/2509169

But I’ll repeat it here, so I can clarify it once again!

A few months ago, I was posting 120 to 130 pages a month, and I had X subscribers, but at that pace, I ended up developing inflammation in my spine, neck, and right shoulder from spending so many hours sitting in front of the computer. So, after spending almost half a month taking strong medications, one of which actually made me feel really sick, I decided to slow down my work pace, and in July I even took nearly 15 days off to rest and recover completely.

At that time, I was working on 05 stories simultaneously, and so that I could focus on improving the content, I’m making these monthly transitions between the stories until the WNMT story can be finished, after which the regular stories will return to a fixed schedule.

Currently, the WNTM story is on a fixed posting schedule; I only paused it last month so I could think about the best way to bring the story to a conclusion.

Once it’s finished, all four stories will return to their regular monthly posting schedule.

Please, if you’re still a subscriber, feel free to ask me directly about any questions or suggestions you have, rather than posting them here in a public forum, where many people might misinterpret your words and, as a result, harm my work.

Sorry for making this reply so long. I just wanted to clarify things as best as I could!

I hope everyone has a great week!

 

[Lucius Logan 3D]

Well,as subsciber of lucius logan I can talk

Lucius has few defects
First,is too expensive for 20 usd months you have pratically just one comic because the others two have only 20 pages month
So a total of only 100 page each month but only spending 20 usd montly,if you pay 10 usd just 40 pages montly !
Second
He has a very irregular way to post comics because are often suspended for at least one or two months.
Is the most expensive of the 6 artist I m following and nobody know which comic next month will be suspended.
I m a fam of MNG but in October is cancelled I do not know when back and,once more,LL post just 100 pages month,a very small amount for 20usd
About comics some are good , some aren t

And there's just one thing I forgot to mention: I currently have more subscribers than I did when I posted 20 or 30 more pages,
so I believe it's not the amount of content, but rather the overall quality of the work provided to subscribers.

 

[pazzdan]

Hi
I still active subsciber but just for few days,then no more renew because , once more,you are the most expensive artist among my favorite artists.
With 10 usd you get 40 pages monthly just from 2 comics
Quantity,and some times quality because honestly P&M are melting down,doesen t worth 20 usd monthly,my opinion off course
This is a fact,sorry,as a fact that I lost my money in july where,due to your illness,we had a break of 15 days, so my 20 dollars almost gone
Not your fault,I whis the best for your health and future and probably will be back as subscriber next months
Best wishes and regards

 

[Lucius Logan 3D]

Hi
I still active subsciber but just for few days,then no more renew because , once more,you are the most expensive artist among my favorite artists.
With 10 usd you get 40 pages monthly just from 2 comics
Quantity,and some times quality because honestly P&M are melting down,doesen t worth 20 usd monthly,my opinion off course
This is a fact,sorry,as a fact that I lost my money in july where,due to your illness,we had a break of 15 days, so my 20 dollars almost gone
Not your fault,I whis the best for your health and future and probably will be back as subscriber next months
Best wishes and regards

Which site do you subscribe to, and what is your username there?

 

[reddragon88]

Well,as subsciber of lucius logan I can talk

Lucius has few defects
First,is too expensive for 20 usd months you have pratically just one comic because the others two have only 20 pages month
So a total of only 100 page each month but only spending 20 usd montly,if you pay 10 usd just 40 pages montly !
Second
He has a very irregular way to post comics because are often suspended for at least one or two months.
Is the most expensive of the 6 artist I m following and nobody know which comic next month will be suspended.
I m a fam of MNG but in October is cancelled I do not know when back and,once more,LL post just 100 pages month,a very small amount for 20usd
About comics some are good , some aren t

no doubt brother the monthly price 20 dollar is so high especially with subscribestar international transaction tax thats why i always hold my subscription for 2 or 3 months but like he said Every artist has their own way of working, whether it’s the unique quality of their images or texts, the amount of content they produce, or the price they charge for it.
His work is masterpiece but unfortunately All we can do is hold our subscription for few months than subscribe him again.

 

[reddragon88]

in meanwhile i subscribed nadof and mando and xxxavailable 10 dollars nandof and 5dollars to other two artists all are amazing.

 

[Gnaparelli]

Yeah, i would have bet money on the fact this story was made on commission. There are some really fucked-up people with strange fantasies out there. Unfortunately they commissioned all that mixed with incest, ruining everything. Anyway, if i was an artist , and someone paid me for making a story i actually don't like , or despise, i would have hard time making it honestly. Then, assuming that artist rightfully want to make some money, and make this or that type of stories, once story is posted for "larger audience", i would actually put a disclaimer, something like "This story/plot/dialogues are made on precise and specific request made by single/few subscriber and doesn't necessarily reflect opinons, tastes, or views of the artist". Anyway, again, congrats at least for mom's character , her face and body are fantastic, at least at beginning of the story, as well as her "simple housewife" outfits, super-exciting for me. Hopefully you will make more "normal, every-day, next-door" family taboo/plots. By the way , what i like here is the fact that son is one taking initiative, something like that would be better in every incest comic . Your "Bad mom" would have been better if at some point it wasn't mom taking initiative and starting masturbating son, if scene where he was behind her in laundry-room went on with him starting to knealing her tits, kissing her neck, face, lips, and trying and convincing her to jerk him, then maybe suck/fuck him, that "male character convincing female" with mom offering some resistance, but still accepting sexual contact, that is always very exciting, and most of all, much more realistic.

 

[Lucius Logan 3D]

no doubt brother the monthly price 20 dollar is so high especially with subscribestar international transaction tax thats why i always hold my subscription for 2 or 3 months but like he said Every artist has their own way of working, whether it’s the unique quality of their images or texts, the amount of content they produce, or the price they charge for it.
His work is masterpiece but unfortunately All we can do is hold our subscription for few months than subscribe him again.

Unfortunately, these fees apply to all of us; every website charges a fee from the subscriber and a fee from the artists—in other words, they profit twice. I’ll give some examples:

For each monthly subscription, both PATREON and SUBSCRIBESTAR take about 7 to 9% of that amount, so I did a sample calculation using the midpoint of 8%.
So if you pay a subscription fee of 20.00, I’ll only receive 18.40. It doesn’t seem like much, but for every 12 subscribers or so, the site keeps the full amount of one month’s subscription fee.

And then, even when we request a withdrawal on the website, we still have to pay between 16 and 40 dollars depending on the withdrawal amount. Plus, in my case, since I don’t live in the U.S., I also have to pay the conversion fee from dollars to my local currency. In other words, there are a lot of fees before we actually get the net amount we’re owed

Yes, paying $20.00 might seem like a lot, but do a quick search—or if anyone has a good memory (at least better than mine, hahaha)—I believe most artists work with amounts like $5, $10, $15, and $20, and those prices have been the same for years. Speaking from what I remember when I started paying for Daval’s subscription in 2022—and other artists’ prices have also stayed the same for years.

However, at least here where I live, prices have gone up a lot over the past four years. I’ll give two basic examples:
1st example:
1 kg of coffee here cost $3.17 in 2022/2023 for a good-quality brand;
today, in 2026, it costs $4.95 for a brand of considerably lower quality.

2nd example
In approximately July 2025, I bought one 32 GB RAM module for approximately $127.22 each.
Today, in 2026, that same 32 GB RAM module of the same model and brand costs approximately $792.65.

So, while $20.00 a month might seem expensive, at least I’m hoping my RAM modules or graphics card don’t break down anytime soon

 

[Lucius Logan 3D]

in meanwhile i subscribed nadof and mando and xxxavailable 10 dollars nandof and 5dollars to other two artists all are amazing.

I do that too; I try to support at least one or more other artists every month.

 

[Lucius Logan 3D]

Yeah, i would have bet money on the fact this story was made on commission. There are some really fucked-up people with strange fantasies out there. Unfortunately they commissioned all that mixed with incest, ruining everything. Anyway, if i was an artist , and someone paid me for making a story i actually don't like , or despise, i would have hard time making it honestly.

Yes, it’s not that easy to find common ground between the artist's vision and the custom content the client wants.I have my own limits and tags I’ll never work with as an artist, but since we all have our own preferences, there are artists who might actually like the same things the clients do—or who can at least separate their personal feelings from the job, recognizing that even if a client is asking for something they don't personally enjoy, it’s still just work.

Then, assuming that artist rightfully want to make some money, and make this or that type of stories, once story is posted for "larger audience", i would actually put a disclaimer, something like "This story/plot/dialogues are made on precise and specific request made by single/few subscriber and doesn't necessarily reflect opinons, tastes, or views of the artist".

In that case, you're right, because those are basically the types of warnings that movies, TV series, and streaming shows use for their products.

Anyway, again, congrats at least for mom's character , her face and body are fantastic, at least at beginning of the story, as well as her "simple housewife" outfits, super-exciting for me. Hopefully you will make more "normal, every-day, next-door" family taboo/plots.

Thank you very much, I also think Stephany is very beautiful

Your "Bad mom" would have been better if at some point it wasn't mom taking initiative and starting masturbating son, if scene where he was behind her in laundry-room went on with him starting to knealing her tits, kissing her neck, face, lips, and trying and convincing her to jerk him, then maybe suck/fuck him, that "male character convincing female" with mom offering some resistance, but still accepting sexual contact, that is always very exciting, and most of all, much more realistic.

In this story, the title and the cover of Chapter 1 were already hints that she wouldn't be a totally naive MILF—at least not at the beginning.

I understand your particular fetish, but there are other people—or rather, some of my subscribers—who like Maggie's style.

And, to reiterate what I’ve mentioned here on the forum before: I have five ongoing stories, and I can't simply make them all the same. I need variety so that subscribers get diverse content and so I can reach a wider audience.

Anyway, I need to get to work now. Have a great week, everyone.

 

[dingne]

Not looking in anyone's direction, certainly not at Lucius Logan 3D (who is kind enough to put his works up here for free when he/she sees fit), I don't think criticism about pricing deserves to take place here.
As far as I know, for both Patreon and SubscribeStar a content creator has to specify what he/she is offering at what price, in what interval. If you feel this to be fair, subscribe. If you don't, walk away, and look for something that better suits your fancy.
Discussing the pricing and/or the monetary gains of a content creater serves no purpose to other forum users, nor the content creater himself/herself, unless you want to create an echo chamber, and try to influence the creator in changing his/her pricing and/or the frequency or quantity of produced materials.
If you feel that the quantity of created materials is unworthy of your (current) monthly sub, then either lower your tier or lower your expectations, but don't try to publicly call out a content creator for something you agreed on when you pressed "Join" or "Unlock".
This doesn't mean no critique is allowed, but please keep it about the graphics or storytelling quality of the created content, not a transactional decision the other forum users have no stake or interest in.

 

[Lucius Logan 3D]

no doubt brother the monthly price 20 dollar is so high especially with subscribestar international transaction tax thats why i always hold my subscription for 2 or 3 months but like he said Every artist has their own way of working, whether it’s the unique quality of their images or texts, the amount of content they produce, or the price they charge for it.
His work is masterpiece but unfortunately All we can do is hold our subscription for few months than subscribe him again.

Oh, I forgot to mention that I also have the $16.00 subscription.

How does the $16.00 subscription differ from the $20.00 subscription?
The $16.00 subscription includes access to VIP stories. 15 days after the initial post, subscribers NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS to the NO TEXT versions of the pages.

In other words, if you don’t mind not having the images in the “NO TEXT” version, this is a good choice.
However, there’s nothing stopping a subscriber, for example, from asking me for a specific image they liked, to use as wallpaper, for instance, so I can send it to them.

Perhaps this infographic will clarify the explanation regarding access:

The $16.00 subscription includes access to VIP stories. 15 days after the initial post, subscribers NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS to the NO TEXT versions of the pages.

 

[reddragon88]

Unfortunately, these fees apply to all of us; every website charges a fee from the subscriber and a fee from the artists—in other words, they profit twice. I’ll give some examples:

For each monthly subscription, both PATREON and SUBSCRIBESTAR take about 7 to 9% of that amount, so I did a sample calculation using the midpoint of 8%.
So if you pay a subscription fee of 20.00, I’ll only receive 18.40. It doesn’t seem like much, but for every 12 subscribers or so, the site keeps the full amount of one month’s subscription fee.

And then, even when we request a withdrawal on the website, we still have to pay between 16 and 40 dollars depending on the withdrawal amount. Plus, in my case, since I don’t live in the U.S., I also have to pay the conversion fee from dollars to my local currency. In other words, there are a lot of fees before we actually get the net amount we’re owed

Yes, paying $20.00 might seem like a lot, but do a quick search—or if anyone has a good memory (at least better than mine, hahaha)—I believe most artists work with amounts like $5, $10, $15, and $20, and those prices have been the same for years. Speaking from what I remember when I started paying for Daval’s subscription in 2022—and other artists’ prices have also stayed the same for years.

However, at least here where I live, prices have gone up a lot over the past four years. I’ll give two basic examples:
1st example:
1 kg of coffee here cost $3.17 in 2022/2023 for a good-quality brand;
today, in 2026, it costs $4.95 for a brand of considerably lower quality.

2nd example
In approximately July 2025, I bought one 32 GB RAM module for approximately $127.22 each.
Today, in 2026, that same 32 GB RAM module of the same model and brand costs approximately $792.65.

So, while $20.00 a month might seem expensive, at least I’m hoping my RAM modules or graphics card don’t break down anytime soon

i can understand because of ai inflation rams and GPU prices sky rocket and as a artist like you backup for ram and gpu is always necessary im also trying to upgrade my pc from am4 to am5 motherboard just because rams prices so high i still cant upgrade my pc and i always love your masterpiece work so no hate from me you also pay different different kinds of tax for withdrawal money your work worth money. Mostly artist like daval and nandof do one page render and just change the angles of the same page and count as next page but you mostly create new page in 10 pages update.