[Andava | Lilandy | Icaro] Collections and Updates

[AffectionOtto]

You forgot that her ID expired the exact same day she was born but then was issued 26 years later so its not a valid ID and was never valid.

How can you say that? It clearly says "LEGAL BITCH"!
Yeah--like I said, I only listed the less obvious signs.

Which brings up another interesting point: The card was issued in October 2025, (almost) the exact same day the image itself was first published. Back in "Lessons Learned", the banner advertising the Sadie Hawkins dance states that it will be held on Friday, November 13th--the last time 11/13 fell on a Friday was in 2020, which IIRC was about the same time that Lessons Learned was published. So it seems that the date, in-universe, is pinned to the actual date IRL, but the characters in it do not seem to age . . . either that, or Andava is deliberately keeping the timeline vague / confusing, which I have to say is a smart move if you want to avoid accusations of depicting minors in sexual situations.

As far as seeing Ester in a cap & gown, that's probably a flash-forward, the same way that all the "loli" images of the high-school characters are flashbacks. Either that, or it's her graduation from middle school, which for some reason is a thing. Upon taking a closer look, the tassel on her cap has a little bangle that appears to read "2011", which could support either explanation, depending on what year it was when Andava drew it.

Speaking of having everything set in the present day, but the characters not aging, it's been suggested (I think even in this very thread) that since Brianna & Lily are so slutty, they likely have a similarly promiscuous (and quite possibly MILFy) mother. From the image below, we can infer that Ceci graduated from high school (San Pedro High School?) in 2010, meaning she's a bit too young to be Brianna's mother. But, in a few years, she won't have been, not if Brianna stays the same age.

https://forum.allporncomix.com/attachments/264-jpg.463080/

How did you make your image show up as a thumbnail? My only options seem to be either this clickable link, or the full-size image.

 

[ReichLoli ᛋᛋ]

10/2025 FAN REQUEST 03-04

 

[euroedo]

High school freshmen are usually 14 / 15, and then it goes sophomores -> juniors -> seniors, who are mostly 17 or 18. So, yes, it's quite possible that Darcy is an 18-year-old senior, but she looks significantly younger than people like Erica, Ixtaro, Liam, Cassie, etc. Or consider Ester, who's a young, cute, spunky, high school cheerleader . . . and her official height is only 4'9" (145 cm). Yeah, that could be her full adult height, but doesn't it sound a lot more like a 16-year-old sophomore?

IMO, Andava's "I only depict characters to be 18+" is meant to be taken with a healthy dose of "nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more", and Lily's perfectly legit driver's license is an extension of that.

Oh, I didn't notice the height thing lmao. Yeah nvm

 

[marcusdom]

Oh yeah I skipped over legal bitch to (and no way in hell any DMV is letting you flip off the camera) just because it was too damn obvious. I just ultimately think there's not much to any of it, just Andava using whatever the current date is when displaying a time stamp and occasionally trying to cover his bases again whenever the topic of 18+ comes up (such a fucking retarded conversation, it's a drawing man what's it gonna do, go to a Diddy party?). It is at least fun to theory craft about ages and the world (which may become more relevant with the game now) and I feel confident the characters have aged just because some of his much earlier art has Pelo and Alexis looking like either middle school or high school freshmen and their mom with less wrinkles and full black hair, and now Pelo and Alexis look almost college age while Dylan has gray hairs and more noticeable creases.

I have no idea what the pin on Esters tassel is supposed to be because it doesn't look like 2011 to me (he absolutely did not draw that in 2011, the art style and Doc.3 Patreon logo are definitely past 2011).

Oh I know about the theory of Lily and Brianna having a slutty mom because I'm the one that posted it, I made it as a suggestion a page or so back for possible new characters if Andava wants to pad the roster out. I highly doubt its Cici though, she doesn't really look like them. I imagine their mom is probably just some air-headed busty blonde bimbo like her daughters.

And beats me man, I just go to attach files under the text field, attach the image, and then on the top left I get an Insert>Thumbnail/Full Image option.

 

[marcusdom]

You know what knowing Andava or his people read these threads I just had to post this after looking through Alexis pics in regard to aging.

Andava here's a freebie: how about for a halloween related image you have Alexis and Pelo (and maybe even their mom) dress up as characters from The Coffin of Andy and Leyley. Alexis already looks a little bit like Andrew, I don't think its a stretch to say the two of them might play the edgy cannibal incest game, you can capitalize on an existing IP and its fan base as well as your own, and its just a fun idea.

 

[pippipapapopo]

You know what knowing Andava or his people read these threads I just had to post this after looking through Alexis pics in regard to aging.

Andava here's a freebie: how about for a halloween related image you have Alexis and Pelo (and maybe even their mom) dress up as characters from The Coffin of Andy and Leyley. Alexis already looks a little bit like Andrew, I don't think its a stretch to say the two of them might play the edgy cannibal incest game, you can capitalize on an existing IP and its fan base as well as your own, and its just a fun idea.

You just want to see the three fooling around with each other. Because i know i want to

 

[Hiraiono]

You guys are taking the "all characters depicted are 18+" and the ID comic page way too seriously lol.

 

[marcusdom]

You just want to see the three fooling around with each other. Because i know i want to

I mean of course, but I'm serious it's more than that, don't need halloween costumes to see some wincest. It seriously is an idea because now not only do we have Lily wearing the exact same costume, in the new pics Reich just posted Skylar is also wearing the exact same catgirl Billie Eilish hair ass looking costume for like the third time now, and his art hasn't dramatically changed since starting up the Lil'Andy account so it feels like just a damn left over/discarded pic he never posted from years ago rather than something new. First pic we've gotten of Skylar in like half a year I believe and its the same costume she was wearing in 2022 (remember when Andava drew beastiality? Shit does anyone even remember Valentina?) If the man needs ideas I'm happy to throw stuff out there for free, doesn't even need to be incest it can just be individual pics of the family in costume or them at an orgy or something.

And as for the age thing, meh that's mostly me just shit posting and having fun overthinking things. I love world building and lore and story and characters. If you think we're bad try figuring out the lore of a Souls game like Elden Ring, it demands you overthink and overanalyze everything.

 

[Raptor]

I'm not going to debate the universe of porn characters now, but considering who they come from, let's not rule out the possibility that many drawings are from other years or from other collections. It's common in this "industry" that sometimes, when there's time, there's overstocking and many things are saved "for when there's none," and so with a couple of adjustments, you have material for little effort. And even more so when some characters seem to be made from pieces of others, like Esther.
And it's possible that this has happened here, just as I've mentioned before. He almost certainly has to have body and posture models already prepared, then give them the appropriate head, skin color, and that's it. That's why, no matter how many requests he gets, he always chooses the simplest and the ones that best suit his characters, taking the least risk. It's a vague technique, but efficient and respectable.
And regarding the ages of the characters and many other things, I don't bother to think about the "logic" behind a handful of characters that could disappear tomorrow or that the author himself could change or make some modification. There's no need to think so hard
And while we're at it, does anyone have the comic between Alexis and the ugly girl? Is he non-gay now?

 

[MKUltra]

And while we're at it, does anyone have the comic between Alexis and the ugly girl? Is he non-gay now?

I don't think anyone here has the normal substar.

As for Alexis, from what I remember of the rough previews of the comic, an interesting note was that he seems to have difficulty in getting hard from just normal stimulation.

 

[AffectionOtto]

I just ultimately think there's not much to any of it, just Andava using whatever the current date is when displaying a time stamp and occasionally trying to cover his bases again whenever the topic of 18+ comes up . . . I feel confident the characters have aged just because some of his much earlier art has Pelo and Alexis looking like either middle school or high school freshmen and their mom with less wrinkles and full black hair, and now Pelo and Alexis look almost college age while Dylan has gray hairs and more noticeable creases.

Going back & looking through some of the images, I see a curious mix of yes & no on that count. Yeah, you're certainly right about Dylan & her hair, and there are even a few images that show some real age progression in non-loli Darcy: View attachment 451727 View attachment 455012
But if there's one change that one would expect, it's that Alexis would grow his hair out to look more feminine. Yet in every picture of him, even the recent ones in his white bridal dressup, his hair is still no longer than it was back in high school, when he was still with Cassie & dressing like a guy.
I'll echo the consensus here, and say that this is probably a result of Andava re-using stock poses, and holding on to "extra" images to release them later . . . and also deliberately aging some characters more than others, because he knows it makes the timeline, and the characters' status as legal adults, more difficult to pin down.

Oh I know about the theory of Lily and Brianna having a slutty mom because I'm the one that posted it . . . I highly doubt its Cici though, she doesn't really look like them.

Oh yeah, I wasn't really suggesting that it should be Ceci, I was just using the (probable) knowledge of her age as an example in a thought experiment. True, she could still theoretically be their mom (both girls could get their looks from their father, after all), but could <> should.

And as for the age thing, meh that's mostly me just shit posting and having fun overthinking things. I love world building and lore and story and characters.

Me too. I find that I'm oddly intrigued by the Andavaverse's curious mix of hard clues, references that don't go anywhere, and outright obscurity: I feel almost compelled to try to connect the dots. Who's responsible for all of those fake "Bloodpool for the Crown" and "Bloodpool of the Crown" tickets and shirts (even Alexis is seen wearing one)? Is it Renae? Is she doing it to raise money for the "Los Papas" gang? And then there's Pelo's patrol cap & Darcy's fatigues shirt: Did they come from some soldier or National Guardsman who suddenly had to leave Pelo's room half-dressed, or did the two girls simply walk into an Army/Navy store one afternoon? Etc.

And while we're at it, does anyone have the comic between Alexis and the ugly girl? Is he non-gay now?

My headcanon is that Alexis was largely closeted while in high school: Wearing men's clothes, dating a girl. And yes, having sex with her. View attachment 448149
Only after graduating did he fully come out as a transvestite and gay (I also believe that the image of Pelo giving him a blowjob was a test between the two of them, to see if he was actually 100% gay or not), and break off his relationship with Cassie. That, at least, makes more sense to me than him using the Men's locker room at school to change into his girls' cheerleading uniform, and being welcomed onto the squad by Brianna & Ester. I mean sure, obviously I understand that the Andavaverse is porn and not meant to be realistic, but in cases where the source material allows it, I like to make concessions to reality here and there.

 

[ReichLoli ᛋᛋ]

10/2025 FAN REQUEST 05

 

[marcusdom]

Jesus I'm dying here man, do I even need to say it? Oh look a "new" Megan picture, haven't seen this before. And the tiara looks like ass compared to before, is it just some cheap photoshop bevel and emboss effect? These are 100% recycled images, and I don't mind recycled work I understand the purpose and value behind using old unfinished stuff or patch working pieces from multiple works, but he's done it consistently enough now for multiple characters for multiple years and most importantly of all, for his paying customers (these are fan requests after all) that I can't see it as anything other than Andava once again being scummy and lazy and shitting out the bare minimum ("minimum viable product" is the corporate term") to his subs.

I'll just leave off on the theory crafting discussion by saying I think it's the opposite, I think Alexis is becoming less femboyish and gay more masculine as he gets older. I hope I'm wrong because his whole appeal was being a femboy.

2023 and 2024

 

[pippipapapopo]

Jesus I'm dying here man, do I even need to say it? Oh look a "new" Megan picture, haven't seen this before. And the tiara looks like ass compared to before, is it just some cheap photoshop bevel and emboss effect? These are 100% recycled images, and I don't mind recycled work I understand the purpose and value behind using old unfinished stuff or patch working pieces from multiple works, but he's done it consistently enough now for multiple characters for multiple years and most importantly of all, for his paying customers (these are fan requests after all) that I can't see it as anything other than Andava once again being scummy and lazy and shitting out the bare minimum ("minimum viable product" is the corporate term") to his subs.

I'll just leave off on the theory crafting discussion by saying I think it's the opposite, I think Alexis is becoming less femboyish and gay more masculine as he gets older. I hope I'm wrong because his whole appeal was being a femboy

I dont know man. I see them having the same outfits as cartoon logic. You know when cartoon characters open their wardrobe and there is 10 times the same outfit inside? I persoanlly dont have a problem with that.
If it would be the same image but just the face gets swaped for another character or in this case its the same image but just in Megans noramal clothes while it is a reward in another month, that i would call recicled.

 

[pippipapapopo]

I also believe that the image of Pelo giving him a blowjob was a test between the two of them

Wait, am i missing an image? This sounsd unfamiliar

 

[AffectionOtto]

I dont know man. I see them having the same outfits as cartoon logic. You know when cartoon characters open their wardrobe and there is 10 times the same outfit inside? I persoanlly dont have a problem with that.

That's fine for a quick throwaway gag, when there's lots of other content surrounding it, but when a character's wardrobe is roughly 20% of each image, an image that people are paying for, seeing the same character wear the same thing over & over can be just grating. Yeah, some familiarity is nice (such as Darcy's baggy white/yellow/cyan cover-up shirt) for establishing a sense of continuity, but she has a whole lot of other garments to wear as well. But, again, Darcy only seems to have the two Halloween costumes: Witch and Bee, and it's somewhat difficult to tell which is which, as she mixes & matches elements of both outfits together.
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Obviously I'm not a paying subscriber, but regardless, I feel it would be more prudent & considerate of Andava to, each year, draw a handful of characters in new costumes that they haven't worn before--and, if he still has old art of those characters lying around (such as the leftover Lily/Skylar/Megan pictures), release them alongside their newer counterparts.

Wait, am i missing an image? This sounds unfamiliar

That's because it's not an Andava image, it was drawn by PumpkinSinclair. Normally I disregard fanart, but since PS is Andava's brother I treat it as mostly canon.

 

[Sogo Amagi]

Wait, am i missing an image? This sounsd unfamiliar

It's just an edit, it's not official from Andava.

 

[euroedo]

That's fine for a quick throwaway gag, when there's lots of other content surrounding it, but when a character's wardrobe is roughly 20% of each image, an image that people are paying for, seeing the same character wear the same thing over & over can be just grating. Yeah, some familiarity is nice (such as Darcy's baggy white/yellow/cyan cover-up shirt) for establishing a sense of continuity, but she has a whole lot of other garments to wear as well. But, again, Darcy only seems to have the two Halloween costumes: Witch and Bee, and it's somewhat difficult to tell which is which, as she mixes & matches elements of both outfits together.
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Obviously I'm not a paying subscriber, but regardless, I feel it would be more prudent & considerate of Andava to, each year, draw a handful of characters in new costumes that they haven't worn before--and, if he still has old art of those characters lying around (such as the leftover Lily/Skylar/Megan pictures), release them alongside their newer counterparts.


That's because it's not an Andava image, it was drawn by PumpkinSinclair. Normally I disregard fanart, but since PS is Andava's brother I treat it as mostly canon.

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one hell of a family tbh, and not talking about Pelo and Alexis. Imagine throwing ideas on what smut to draw with your brother, regarding your brother's OCs lmao

 

[marcusdom]

I'm not even opposed to the cartoon logic of wearing the same thing everyday, it sets a kind of uniform and also establishes the characters personality a bit; Megan in her business suit, Alexis with that sleeveless crop top and pink skirt, etc. But Halloween is that one month of the year that usually encourages artist to do something different and sometimes topical (idk, someone dressed like Hornet from Silksong with just a red cloak and then lifting it to show they are completely naked underneath), and in all fairness to him it's not like he hasn't drawn his lolis in different costumes (Lily as a nun, Skylar as a witch, one with Taniyah as Freddy Kruger and Skylar as Jason Voorhees), if only he did that more than once. Hell he already does it somewhat regularly throughout the year anyway, does anybody know what Pelo's real hair color is cause bitch keeps changing it on a daily basis.

And as always none of this matters if the art was free, but it's not free, he makes people jump through hoops to get the art they payed for (a trend many other r34 artists have followed), and then he has spent an obsessive amount of time trying to take down anyone reuploading his art, particularly our lord and savior ReichLoli (once again love you man and never any rush to upload something, at least not from me). Money is where all of this becomes a sticking point for me, I know like a million other r34 artists where I don't have a problem with them.

Also wait wtf, PumpkinSinclair is Andava's brother? Thats news to me. Probably explains why they still collab a lot. I'm wondering if there was some sort of falling out between Andava and other artists because he used to draw Gardnerverse or Dross characters all the time.

(ok I really should have looked at that Ponpu thread by Bogart, whoops)

 

[AffectionOtto]

It's just an edit, it's not official from Andava.

Page 4 of this thread does discuss a fake image of incest between Pelo & Alexis. marcusdom said, in three successive posts:
"I just checked rule34 before hitting Post Reply and the first image of his is Alexis fucking Pelo. Perfect timing on the incest thing lol."
. . .
"yeah said pic is Alexis right in there with Pelo, broken condom and cum so about as incest as it gets."
. . .
"They could just be edits done by other people (that Pelo and Alexis incest one I mentioned? Yeah my bad its an edit, you guys are right about the incest being minor and not a big deal)"

I haven't seen the picture in question, but it sounds like they're talking about this one, View attachment 574415 but with Alexis's face shopped in over the guy's.
In all of the real Andava images of Alexis & Pelo, the sexual contact between them is indeed quite minor, just some fondling or light fingering, or giving a double blowjob, all done for the benefit of the random guy they're with, rather than each other. So the PumpkinSinclair image I posted above is a real departure from that, and its mostly-canon status gives it some credibility, which is why I mentally categorize it as "probably just an experiment".

I find it interesting that Pelo has shared guys with both Alexis and Dylan (usually one of them making out with the guy, while the other gives him a BJ), but AFAIK there are zero images of Dylan and Alexis together. The closest I could find is one picture of Dylan, with a framed photograph of Pelo & Alexis in the foreground--and in the photo, Alexis is dressed like a guy. So it's possible that Dylan utterly rejects Alexis's homosexuality (or at least transvestism), and has completely disowned him . . . but then again, it's also possible that the only reason they aren't seen together is because he no longer lives in her house, he's moved in with Nick. There I go, theory-crafting again.

Also wait wtf, PumpkinSinclair is Andava's brother? Thats news to me.

Granted, I don't know for myself that Andava & PumpkinSinclair are brothers; I came here from the Sankaku Complex site, and got that information from their wiki. As I'm still a new user, I don't want to be blamed for spamming for another website, so I'll put the link in a separate post.