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I definitely consider AI an advancement, but there are still many barriers that need to be overcome. The impression it gives me is that you can notice this typical plastic-like effect of AI, which limits the quality. In my understanding, AI still can't work on characters from all perspectives without losing symmetry. Personally, I prefer work done with programs like RenderBlender, for example. At first, AI did cause me some excitement, but then I realized that AI also has its limits and the effect is well below expectations.
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Are you crazy?! Why would you want AI art to replace the models he currently uses???
the 3d models are something i can get hold of by going to GUH COITUS' site and doing this myself the thing that makes CD/PK different is volume not quality.

if it speeds things up improves the look i'm all for it. since he has the AI models built that means more content do I give a fuck if its 3d or AI or AI enhanced 3D no.

its also currently being use in a couple projects currently so its not like its gonna be any different going forward.
 
the 3d models are something i can get hold of by going to GUH COITUS' site and doing this myself the thing that makes CD/PK different is volume not quality.

if it speeds things up improves the look i'm all for it. since he has the AI models built that means more content do I give a fuck if its 3d or AI or AI enhanced 3D no.

its also currently being use in a couple projects currently so its not like its gonna be any different going forward.
I, for example, like to use AI to reinterpret the works of renowned artists like Pig King, for example. Even so, I prefer to keep the original style without making changes. The work done in 3D programs will not be surpassed anytime soon, as AI still doesn't have a program geared towards this type of content. The ones that do exist are very weak and always create characters with an anime-like style, and they can't maintain the symmetry of the drawing by matching the images. That said, when AIs first appeared, I found them interesting because of the technological novelty. But later, my enthusiasm cooled down considerably because of AI's deficiencies. It might become viable in a more distant future, but it can't replace programs specifically designed for this type of content.
I use AI mainly to improve the texture of images while trying to preserve the artist's work, and of course, giving them full credit. I, for example, think that Pig King needs to revisit their compositions because they become very monotonous to read and see, which is why I do things that I consider would be interesting. However, Pig King is a standout in this type of content. I hope they review their work philosophy. Regardless of whether their work is in line with their previous best efforts, I still enjoy reading the stories a lot.
If you don't like what's being done, present something different for comparison—that's what I think. Besides, I have fun redoing some stories that I consider very good, and I enjoy producing them. My criticisms regarding Pig King will always be constructive.
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I, for example, like to use AI to reinterpret the works of renowned artists like Pig King, for example. Even so, I prefer to keep the original style without making changes. The work done in 3D programs will not be surpassed anytime soon, as AI still doesn't have a program geared towards this type of content. The ones that do exist are very weak and always create characters with an anime-like style, and they can't maintain the symmetry of the drawing by matching the images. That said, when AIs first appeared, I found them interesting because of the technological novelty. But later, my enthusiasm cooled down considerably because of AI's deficiencies. It might become viable in a more distant future, but it can't replace programs specifically designed for this type of content.
I use AI mainly to improve the texture of images while trying to preserve the artist's work, and of course, giving them full credit. I, for example, think that Pig King needs to revisit their compositions because they become very monotonous to read and see, which is why I do things that I consider would be interesting. However, Pig King is a standout in this type of content. I hope they review their work philosophy. Regardless of whether their work is in line with their previous best efforts, I still enjoy reading the stories a lot.
If you don't like what's being done, present something different for comparison—that's what I think. Besides, I have fun redoing some stories that I consider very good, and I enjoy producing them. My criticisms regarding Pig King will always be constructive.View attachment 767287
Yes, I think using AI to build upon an already present work is fine. I was just shocked at the sheer idiocy that the other person had said regarding 3D or AI works being no different for him.
 
When you take an idea and develop it, it's important to understand the mechanics of it. That said, I believe everything has a limit. I don't think this kind of repetition is interesting from an aesthetic point of view. It's starting to feel saturated—a never-ending repetition. Placing three photos in sequence to simulate movement is a good initiative, but doing it more than 20 times loses its meaning.

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When you take an idea and develop it, it's important to understand the mechanics of it. That said, I believe everything has a limit. I don't think this kind of repetition is interesting from an aesthetic point of view. It's starting to feel saturated—a never-ending repetition. Placing three photos in sequence to simulate movement is a good initiative, but doing it more than 20 times loses its meaning.
Yes, while I appreciate a few panels to simulate movement, a few recent issues have had too many. The most egregious one was Lost Family 66 which had 45 pages of repeated panels! Though these 45 pages may have been split into 7 separate angles, that means each angle had around 6 repeating pages. I'm glad PigKing isn't charging by the page like a few years ago.
 
Yes, while I appreciate a few panels to simulate movement, a few recent issues have had too many. The most egregious one was Lost Family 66 which had 45 pages of repeated panels! Though these 45 pages may have been split into 7 separate angles, that means each angle had around 6 repeating pages. I'm glad PigKing isn't charging by the page like a few years ago.
The big problem I observe is related to the perception of movement. When you take a photo, regardless of the angle, the pose is never the same. This is a basic principle that applies especially to drawing. Anyone who has studied drawing knows that no movement is the same, except when you're editing an animated drawing, but even then, the frames differ. If you consider that the minimum for animation fluidity is around 12 frames per second, a one-minute scene needs at least 720 images. The poses may not appear to change, but they are never repeated, precisely to give the sensation of movement. When you only render and change the angle without altering the pose, such as by adjusting the angle of arms and legs, the drawing becomes static. This is what PigKing does, which is why many stories are monotonous and dull. A positive example is Daval3D's Satisfying Needs. The author has a basic understanding of drawing; no two photos have the same pose, and the characters' poses are always changing along with the angle. It's a true lesson in how to compose a 3D story in this genre.
 

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