[Andava | Lilandy | Icaro] Collections and Updates

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The only problem with Andava and his other pseudonyms is that there is way too much anal stuff happening.

This is like in all cases depending on the author, he or she will have a preference for some things. There are authors who never stop making women with penises, others make the characters obese, others invent their anatomy (giving them huge breasts or asses), others do a lot of zoophilia, others are foot fetishists, etc.
The good thing for me about Andava in this case is that it does a little bit of everything, although it does go for anal as well (which I like), but it is quite diversified and does not touch on extreme themes such as coprophagy, gore or suffering, etc, other things that for example I don't like.

 

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More Briana for the collection:



Briana via smartphone:



And Briana with Lily, her sister, another of the most famous Andava characters:

 

[pippipapapopo]

The only problem with Andava and his other pseudonyms is that there is way too much anal stuff happening.

Every Artist has his own preferences. For me, the two things he focus the most, anal and feet, are two of my favorite things so its perfect for me. ^^

 

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I think there is enough of Briana, I will add others that in addition to having more material because they are more famous and requested by people, although she will surely appear as a guest on other things. At the end of the day, the characters of Andava know each other and not infrequently coincide in some encounters that we would like to experience haha.
I will try to go in alphabetical order, in the time I can be here uploading things and I hope you like them, to complement the great work that ReichLoli is doing.

Here's Cassie:

 

[marcusdom]

Was gonna say are a lot of these images things missing from Reich's archive but I found the Briana and Lily ones almost immediately (still saving them cause I'm not taking any chances knowing how Andava is).

And as for the conversation about fetishes and kinks for me at least its only the pretty extreme stuff that puts me off (except for the whole QoS/blacked stuff, that just seems like an excuse to me to be racist and lo and behold QoH/bleached is a thing so now even my porn has to be political). What really got me into Andava in the first place was he seemed more dedicated to having an actual universe and story with his OC's.

The characters aged, the comics established relationships that changed and grew, my only big gripe was seeing sometime last year an image of Alexis with Cassie and Alexis looked significantly less trappy/femboyish and more just generic guy which was the whole fucking appeal of the character. I hope it was just part of some commission request but then that kind of brings me to the big problem with Andava and why we have this thread in the first place: the dude clearly doesn't give a fuck about his OC's or drawing anymore he just wants a paycheck. Doesn't matter that he rips off his own supporters, doesn't matter if it goes against his own statements (I distinctly remember him saying he would never do incest, yeah that didn't hold up), all that matters is that he gets paid.

 

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I completely understand what you're saying, and while I don't want to be "devil's advocate," I understand when an author does things they said they weren't going to do or breaks their rules for money. Because at the end of the day, what authors want is to make money with their creations, and with the current situation as it is, many times if you stick with an idea, you may be very good but in the end what you need is money , and it's time to pervert or deny your idea or continue being "proud" but be ruined.

In this case, I see that, over the years, Andava has planned its own "universe" of characters, but that these have iterations that sometimes surprise us or that we don't like (I really don't care, as long as it gives us content, although it is true that sometimes the things they do could appear perfectly on Disney Channel because they are perfectly normal haha), and really if you receive continuous subscriptions or large commission payments, you are going to fall through the ring of what they tell you because money is money. It's understandable.

That's why he has paid commissions, diamond subscribers to whom he does exactly what they ask, and he gives the rest "freedom" options by proposing possible pieces over the months when then he really does what he wants. or choose the ones that give you the least complications. He has the business set up well and is quite understandable. And I sincerely hope that it continues to do well, because it is constant, and that is something unusual with creators of NSFW material.

 

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My bad, I probably should have clarified a bit but didn't want to ramble for like 5 pages. It's not THAT he makes money drawing, I get it you got to eat and if you're good at something never do it for free (and I do like his art). My problem is the attitude he's seemingly developed over the past two years or so. I pointed out the incest and only working on commission because I think they are indicators (and I could be way off base here and just making assumptions) that he doesn't have much passion for drawing anymore, it's just a job now, and that mentality has led to him being a bit scummy with how he does business.

My two big grievances being different content available on different platforms even though you subscribe to the same name anyway (by which I mean "Andava" on Patreon had some different content than "Andava" on SubcribeStar and "Andava" on Gumroad. Different user names like Icaro and Lil Andy are completely reasonable and fair), and it's been a while but I remember him at one point time gating content so if you payed for that months upload but didn't download it in time, oh well that's too bad. And then of course we get to him saying he doesn't care about reuploaders he only cares about bot scrappers like kemono and then immediately goes Captain Ahab chasing Reich to the ends of the internet. That's the kind of shit I expect out of Hollywood or AAA games these days not a NSFW artist on the internet (hey Ubisoft, do I get a refund for The Crew? No? Ok then wheres my eyepatch and peg leg cause fuck you. Oh look in response to piracy they put in Denuvo and other DRM's that fuck the paying customer).

The first moment for me when I started thinking he doesn't like doing this anymore he just wants cash was I think like two years ago he tweeted out a new image of Claudia and he mentioned he was happy he got to do her again because he likes drawing her. My immediate thought (well after saving the pic because Claudia is my favorite) was "what do you mean GOT? She's your OC and your independent you can do whatever you want". But Claudia doesn't bring in the money so he doesn't bother with her. Hell look at the reward tier names in the archives Reich posted: Claudia and Esther were the higher reward tier names in the past, now its Darcy because Darcy sells. I feel like its the difference between "well if my fans and supporters want incest/more Darcy/etc then why not? It's their money" and "I'll do whatever you want just pay me".

I guess all I really want from Andava is 1) fuck off with the ReichLoli thing that's not accomplishing anything at best and hurting his legit supporters at worst, 2) if he's still time gating content stop it and 3) make sure all platforms that he gets money from get equal access. That's all just me running my mouth so to speak anyway, I hope I'm wrong and he is still cool and passionate about this because man I used to love seeing something new from him and now I kind of just shrug it off and only get a bit happy when I see Claudia or Loli Claudia.

Also holy hell I just checked rule34 before hitting Post Reply and the first image of his is Alexis fucking Pelo. Perfect timing on the incest thing lol.

 

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Until now what I had seen about incest was Briana with her sister, Alexis and Pelo but very soft, or sharing boys, or Pelo's mother with her also sharing a boyfriend or whatever... What a family! Ironically I know a similar family in real life, of course with an absent/useless father, but that's another topic haha.

I understand your position, what annoys me a lot about authors is that they suddenly release a lot of material, they are successful, and then it seems that they become lazy or do things that are different from what they did when you discovered them, so it's not worth it. You have nothing left but to leave or unsubscribe. It has happened to me several times already, and in fact one that I loved (I won't say his name but there is also a gallery of his here or at least a large part of his work in a thread), I told him in a good way that what it is like that it took so long with each batch of images, because it sounded almost like a scam (because when you pay for something, you want results) and he responded with great arrogance and bad manners, which practically accelerated my progress. It's a shame, but if someone's power goes to their head or they "rot" in that way by treating their fans, for me that author doesn't even deserve water.

As I have said before and returning to this topic, I don't like everything that Andava does (and for me he has improved a lot in his drawing style), but what I do recognize that he is very good is in the assiduity of doing the things, it's not like others who waste two weeks of a fucking month that you paid for without doing anything... (like others that I have also stopped subscribing to)

 

[marcusdom]

Man that's what I love about his stuff, that general feel of some crappy late 90's early 00's high school teen drama TV show but with actual sex, and I hated those damn shows. Granted I do play The Sims (with all the adult mods) so maybe I'm his target audience. But yeah said pic is Alexis right in there with Pelo, broken condom and cum so about as incest as it gets.

I know exactly what you mean as well with lazy or entitled artist, and content creators in general (plenty of youtubers I used to watch who either just disappeared or went straight up their own ass). If anything its easier for me when they are a massive dick since you know it's never going to improve so just move on, it's part of the reason I like all the AI news. AI has made a lot of people go mask off and showed me who's cool, who has legitimate concerns, and who's just a narcissist to avoid. With Andava I don't think he's gone full dick yet but I worry he's going in that direction and I agree, he has had pretty consistent work ethic and improvements over time. I know about the whole separate the art from the artist deal but I've still kind of made an effort to start avoiding anything from creators I like that isn't their work specifically.

And yes back on topic I don't like everything either. I'm not a fan of feet either and coincidentally my favorite of Andava's original batch of OC's is Claudia and my least favorite was Darcy but apparently the opposite is true in terms of popularity (more Darcy art than Claudia). As far as the newer batch of OC's go though it seems I'm in line with everyone else: Cassie is the best, the rest are kind of meh. And on an off note thank you for a surprisingly polite conversation, I can add assiduity to my vocabulary now (yes I had to google it).

 

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Yes, we agree a lot on tastes and preferences, hehe. And at least I believe that you have to know how to differentiate not only the work of an author from the way of being of an author itself, although clearly in social networks that helps a lot if both things are good... it is undeniable.
I also appreciate a healthy conversation, precisely in a forum like this full of perversion haha, and maybe some of my expressions are strange, since English is not my native language, but I do the best I can, and sometimes I have to use translator so I don't make mistakes in the verb tenses ^.^U

BTW, my favorites from Andava are precisely Darcy, Erica and the most recent, Cassie, who for me is like an Erica but much more geeky and less worried about "what will they say about me." I have a little love/hate with Darcy because she is very similar to a girl I had an affair with a long time ago, and in the end she behaved very badly with me! I more or less tolerate the rest of the characters, maybe another one that I like is Nana, because she is very crazy but also mega slutty. The rest don't tell me anything or he doesn't develop them much or he draws them when he remembers, well... meh.

And now, another bunch of Cassie:

 

[pippipapapopo]

Was gonna say are a lot of these images things missing from Reich's archive but I found the Briana and Lily ones almost immediately (still saving them cause I'm not taking any chances knowing how Andava is).

In my oppinion Lilandy stuff is filller/non canon in terms of Andava stuff. Bri in the Andavaverse isnt having casual sex with her underage sister and Cassie isnt a shotacon (even if i enjoy both )
And the only real thing i can remeber that could be seen as incest was a one time kissing between Pelo and Alexis while beeing fucked from others. Sharing the same guy isnt incest in my view.
And even when he does more of it, i wouldnt be mad at him for this. Peoples oppinion change and if his supporter like it, why should he not do it.

But i think we shouldnt talk about how he is as a person beeing. This place should be for happy fapping and not for feeling angry about other people. ^^
And if one enjoy his fetishes or not, i think most can agree that his general art is great.

 

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Another "special" chapter with Cassie:

 

[euroedo]

all I can say is... I'll wait for that updated Darcy gallery (inb4: nothing interesting was drawn between it's last update and now)
I never understood the whole controversy regarding her tbh

 

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A bit more of Cassie before the chipmunk arrives.

 

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And the last ones (for now) by our dear Cassie, doing kinky things (more).

 

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Here comes the chipmunk, one of the most acclaimed characters of the Andavaverse, Darcy:

 

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More Darcy for the menu:

 

[marcusdom]

Well I finally started sorting through the downloads graciously provided by Reich and finding a few oddities. They could just be edits done by other people (that Pelo and Alexis incest one I mentioned? Yeah my bad its an edit, you guys are right about the incest being minor and not a big deal) but it would be weird edits since edits are usually pretty obvious and for specific reasons like changing hair colors or race. They could be revisited images but the file data say 2020 so they aren't exactly new. I think I also found a missing one of Claudia and of Pelo and Alexis.

First one is an Alexis one. Alexis_headpat_1.png (I'd upload it but AllPorn won't let me?) was the one in Reich's archive and d5a34...etc.... is the one I had. They look similar but in mine Alexis has both eyes open and the art style and coloring seems closer to Andava's current stuff while the other one seems older so maybe a revisit?

Second one is Pelo with Slee-Z. This one is the exact same image with a different background. Maybe an edit but why change the background? Removing the background so its transparent makes sense but changing it?

Third is Erica with Jacob, Erica_slut_3.png (again, can't upload this one). This one has to be a revisit, Jacobs crotch looks different between the two so maybe the one I have was an error and Andava touched it up later? The blonde version of this pic (erica_slut_3b.png) also matches the archive.

And the last pair are those two seemingly missing images. I have a crap ton more I didn't see in the archive but they're from 2023 onwards and the Andava archive stops after 2022 so that makes sense. I have no idea where I got them from I just know the folder says wetransfer_draw-requests and its from 2023 January-August.

 

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As I see it, it is perfectly understandable for the author to do and undo whatever he wants with the illustrations, so it is not unusual for the same, depending on the version, to change some detail or even the background color, etc. In fact, many normal versions along with their "c00m" version, if they overlap, can even change the frame or some form, in addition to including the extra proteins XD

So I don't get complicated with things like that, and there are many edited versions out there that I try to avoid. In fact, I don't have some of the "official" Andava illustrations because they don't convey anything to me. I understand that there may be people who are much bigger fans of this author and want to even have sketches, but as a friend of mine once said "if I follow a porn author it is to watch porn" . In fact, his most "common" illustrations are the ones that are always the least successful.

Regarding the old scene of that cafe/burger, I have another one of the "set", I'll put it here (and another old one too):

 

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Another bunch of Darcy, maybe the last one, or at least she being the main character: