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Looking for Don Silver thread Toxic Attraction chapters

It is interesting to consider writing the kind of story you guys want. I would be down to give it a shot if you didn’t immediately post chapters of the contact (which you don’t like anyway) here the day after I release them on smashwords! Yeesh, i only have one paid chapter, the rest are free after a month!

That said, I would have to understand the actual structure of what you guys want better. If you want the husband to have a strong backbone, and the wife to not be a slut for the other man or enjoy him much at all, then there isn’t a lot of room for length and development, no?

Like is the premise that both the husband and wife do not want the wife to have sex with the other man, but some outside plot mechanic makes it so they have to? Then the husband saves her?

Or does the wife start cheating then the husband is angry so he divorces her? And we get a chapter on how good the husbands life becomes and how bad hers is?

Or does the husband want the wife to see another man and she is just reluctant the whole time? And the husband is in charge and manipulating both the wife and the other man?

Or is everyone just happy with all the boundaries and theres no conflict at all? The wife wants both her husband and the other man, the other man likes the wife but respects the couples boundaries, the husband is happy with the situation and in control. Seems like this gets boring pretty quick?

Oh yeah, you've been completely brainwashed by stories like *TA*. If, to you, a story is only interesting when the husband is a pathetic spineless wimp who keeps letting himself be humiliated more and more without doing anything, the wife is a brainless slut with no respect for her husband, and the bull is a walking cliché—a filthy fat slob who's somehow a sex god—then there's really no hope for your story.

And you talk about character development? What kind of development is it when the husband just becomes dumber and more controlled by his fetish? What kind of development is it when the wife becomes so addicted to the bull that she no longer respects or loves her husband? What kind of development is it when the bull is portrayed as all-powerful despite his appearance suggesting the complete opposite?

At the end of the day, it's your story, but claiming there can't be character development unless the husband is weak and the wife isn't enough of a slut is quite a statement. You simply sacrificed the couple's love and chemistry to make hardcore cuckold content for the people willing to pay, just like Don's and so many others.

Go ahead and keep copying *TA*. Make us dream. Make James even weaker and dumber than Dan, make Jenna even more of a treacherous, loveless slut than Sarah, and make Ray an even fatter, uglier, stinkier bull who's somehow an even greater sex god than Lester. That'll be some great character development, w
on't it?
 
Oh yeah, you've been completely brainwashed by stories like *TA*. If, to you, a story is only interesting when the husband is a pathetic spineless wimp who keeps letting himself be humiliated more and more without doing anything, the wife is a brainless slut with no respect for her husband, and the bull is a walking cliché—a filthy fat slob who's somehow a sex god—then there's really no hope for your story.

And you talk about character development? What kind of development is it when the husband just becomes dumber and more controlled by his fetish? What kind of development is it when the wife becomes so addicted to the bull that she no longer respects or loves her husband? What kind of development is it when the bull is portrayed as all-powerful despite his appearance suggesting the complete opposite?

At the end of the day, it's your story, but claiming there can't be character development unless the husband is weak and the wife isn't enough of a slut is quite a statement. You simply sacrificed the couple's love and chemistry to make hardcore cuckold content for the people willing to pay, just like Don's and so many others.

Go ahead and keep copying *TA*. Make us dream. Make James even weaker and dumber than Dan, make Jenna even more of a treacherous, loveless slut than Sarah, and make Ray an even fatter, uglier, stinkier bull who's somehow an even greater sex god than Lester. That'll be some great character development, w
on't it?
I guess different strokes for different folks

I'm personally loving the hardcore style and only hoping it goes further than TA! This is basically a better TA
 
Oh yeah, you've been completely brainwashed by stories like *TA*. If, to you, a story is only interesting when the husband is a pathetic spineless wimp who keeps letting himself be humiliated more and more without doing anything, the wife is a brainless slut with no respect for her husband, and the bull is a walking cliché—a filthy fat slob who's somehow a sex god—then there's really no hope for your story.

And you talk about character development? What kind of development is it when the husband just becomes dumber and more controlled by his fetish? What kind of development is it when the wife becomes so addicted to the bull that she no longer respects or loves her husband? What kind of development is it when the bull is portrayed as all-powerful despite his appearance suggesting the complete opposite?

At the end of the day, it's your story, but claiming there can't be character development unless the husband is weak and the wife isn't enough of a slut is quite a statement. You simply sacrificed the couple's love and chemistry to make hardcore cuckold content for the people willing to pay, just like Don's and so many others.

Go ahead and keep copying *TA*. Make us dream. Make James even weaker and dumber than Dan, make Jenna even more of a treacherous, loveless slut than Sarah, and make Ray an even fatter, uglier, stinkier bull who's somehow an even greater sex god than Lester. That'll be some great character development, w
on't it?
Interesting points, however, I don't agree.
Seems like you're reading a different story.
 
It is interesting to consider writing the kind of story you guys want. I would be down to give it a shot if you didn’t immediately post chapters of the contact (which you don’t like anyway) here the day after I release them on smashwords! Yeesh, i only have one paid chapter, the rest are free after a month!

That said, I would have to understand the actual structure of what you guys want better. If you want the husband to have a strong backbone, and the wife to not be a slut for the other man or enjoy him much at all, then there isn’t a lot of room for length and development, no?

Like is the premise that both the husband and wife do not want the wife to have sex with the other man, but some outside plot mechanic makes it so they have to? Then the husband saves her?

Or does the wife start cheating then the husband is angry so he divorces her? And we get a chapter on how good the husbands life becomes and how bad hers is?

Or does the husband want the wife to see another man and she is just reluctant the whole time? And the husband is in charge and manipulating both the wife and the other man?

Or is everyone just happy with all the boundaries and theres no conflict at all? The wife wants both her husband and the other man, the other man likes the wife but respects the couples boundaries, the husband is happy with the situation and in control. Seems like this gets boring pretty quick?
I haven’t read your story yet but it sure is on my list . Keeping that aside i do want to give some suggestions. First i repeatedly hear people complaining about wimp husband ,wife addicted to big dick, old plotting bull but i think these things are choice of aurthors and what the demand currently is in the genre ,For example i remember in 2010s most stories were power imbalance stories about a boss leveraging his power to coerce a couple to open up their marriage and ugly bastard stories were far less hot because people didn’t like it.Even I didn’t like it but neighbour chironicles was the first story that made ugly bastard hot for me and many other readers.

I think every writer has the right to chose the characters and tell the story accoring to his liking and do whatever he want to do with the characters. Problem with most of the stories is inconsistency in character design and neglecting character motivations and feelings to achieve the conclusions they see fit without putting effort into making the decisions make sense. For example i recently read the story how far will you go and even though writing was upto par with writers like noviceavid it completely lacked character consistency. I know human emotions are complex but not so much that a guy give in to every choice of his wife ,how absured it might be and wife just neglect her husband’s feelings and needs just cuz she get drunk on bull’s dick. I know women usually catch feeling for one they have sex with but even most serial of cheaters feel guilt and remorse if they ever loved their spouse which most aurthor neglect to get to a conclusion.

And i think most aurthors who write stories are capable of writing stories which have good consistency but they either are motivated by their audience or they work according to a formula which is market tested. I still hope that many aurthors are there who are experimenting with different story ideas. As i have not read your story i can’t give any feedback. I just wanted to talk to a author so i can get his opinion on the matter. English is not my mother tongue,still i hope i was successful in putting my point forward.
 
Interesting points, however, I don't agree.
Seems like you're reading a different story.

Explain to me how I'm reading a different story. Did you read the latest chapter, where Jenna lies to and betrays her husband without any hesitation and any guilt ? Where she admits she's never had as much chemistry with him as she has with the fat slob Ray? Where she only gives her husband a token handjob because Ray tells her to, all while lying straight to his face?

Did you genuinely feel any love in Jenna's actions toward her husband? And what do you think about James changing his mind in the span of two seconds, completely influenced by Ray and his own fantasy?

Are you sure its me who read a different story ?
 
It is interesting to consider writing the kind of story you guys want. I would be down to give it a shot if you didn’t immediately post chapters of the contact (which you don’t like anyway) here the day after I release them on smashwords! Yeesh, i only have one paid chapter, the rest are free after a month!

That said, I would have to understand the actual structure of what you guys want better. If you want the husband to have a strong backbone, and the wife to not be a slut for the other man or enjoy him much at all, then there isn’t a lot of room for length and development, no?

Like is the premise that both the husband and wife do not want the wife to have sex with the other man, but some outside plot mechanic makes it so they have to? Then the husband saves her?

Or does the wife start cheating then the husband is angry so he divorces her? And we get a chapter on how good the husbands life becomes and how bad hers is?

Or does the husband want the wife to see another man and she is just reluctant the whole time? And the husband is in charge and manipulating both the wife and the other man?

Or is everyone just happy with all the boundaries and theres no conflict at all? The wife wants both her husband and the other man, the other man likes the wife but respects the couples boundaries, the husband is happy with the situation and in control. Seems like this gets boring pretty quick?
Don’t bother trying to make people happy because you can’t. There will always be somebody – usually somebody who doesn’t write themselves – who wants to complain about how they would’ve written something different and of course MUCH better. Except they don’t write anything different. Or at all. They just complain about people who do write and produce content.

My fave sub plot of this thread is the people who show up and complain ā€œTA has sucked for the last 20+ chapters!ā€ And yet here they are still fucking reading it, and still fucking complaining about it. Like nobody realizes they have the option of not reading stories they don’t (or no longer) like.

I am an artist. If somebody doesn’t like - or even ā€œhatesā€ – something I produce, that’s fine. Art is subjective. The ones I find amusing are the ones who show up and say ā€œyou should’ve done it this way.ā€ Like no bro I shouldn’t have. You should go produce your own art because what you’re telling me is the piece ā€œshould beā€ something entirely different. But the difference is, if I wanted to produce something different, I could have. You on the other hand can’t.

So I don’t care about the cuck element in these stories at all. I am quite fascinated by the contrast, though. Older man seduces younger woman/ugly guy seduces beauty. Do I complain about the parts where the cuck obsesses over how he’s a wimpy husband and he never should’ve allowed this? Nope. I just skip over those parts. And then I don’t complain about how including them somehow ruins the story. It doesn’t.

I really enjoy your writing. You can really make a sex scene cook. You’re very good at creating the world you’ve created. Thank you for that. I appreciate your work. Don’t let the critics get you down. They’re like eunuchs at palace – they see it done every night but they can’t do it themselves.
 
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It is interesting to consider writing the kind of story you guys want. I would be down to give it a shot if you didn’t immediately post chapters of the contact (which you don’t like anyway) here the day after I release them on smashwords! Yeesh, i only have one paid chapter, the rest are free after a month!

That said, I would have to understand the actual structure of what you guys want better. If you want the husband to have a strong backbone, and the wife to not be a slut for the other man or enjoy him much at all, then there isn’t a lot of room for length and development, no?

Like is the premise that both the husband and wife do not want the wife to have sex with the other man, but some outside plot mechanic makes it so they have to? Then the husband saves her?

Or does the wife start cheating then the husband is angry so he divorces her? And we get a chapter on how good the husbands life becomes and how bad hers is?

Or does the husband want the wife to see another man and she is just reluctant the whole time? And the husband is in charge and manipulating both the wife and the other man?

Or is everyone just happy with all the boundaries and theres no conflict at all? The wife wants both her husband and the other man, the other man likes the wife but respects the couples boundaries, the husband is happy with the situation and in control. Seems like this gets boring pretty quick?

Hello Sire,

First of all, I would like to thank you for your comments and suggestions.

I regard this development as extremely positive and as a significant boost to productivity. The discussions that have taken place make it clear that your story ā€œTHE CONTACTā€ has found a firm place in the minds and hearts of its many fans and readers – something most stories are unable to achieve.
It is crucial that lively discussions – naturally without any offensive remarks – are held in a constructive manner, in order to keep the story fresh and vibrant.

After just two chapters, ā€œTHE CONTACTā€ has achieved the status enjoyed by TA, NC, BTHD, etc. It must be noted that the stories in question took a significantly longer time to reach their current status.
This is a clear indication of excellent writing style, narrative flow and content (The Contact) that is very well received and evokes a strong response.
In my personal view, the structure of the work is compelling due to its precision and vividness in the portrayal of events.

I would simply like to point out here that I find the way James (the husband) is treated, and the gradual erosion of his personality, disturbing.
I believe there must be an alternative way of structuring the events and shaping the narrative without humiliating him, wounding his pride or trampling on his masculinity.
In the eighth (8.) chapter, he was almost reduced to a *joke figure*, which undermined the balanced contrast between the main protagonists.
This direction the story has taken has met with disapproval from myself and numerous other fans.
It might be worthwhile to incorporate the concepts of YIN and YANG into the story to reflect the thoughts and consciences of James and Jenna.

In this sense,
All the best,

-- PC
 
I haven’t read your story yet but it sure is on my list . Keeping that aside i do want to give some suggestions. First i repeatedly hear people complaining about wimp husband ,wife addicted to big dick, old plotting bull but i think these things are choice of aurthors and what the demand currently is in the genre ,For example i remember in 2010s most stories were power imbalance stories about a boss leveraging his power to coerce a couple to open up their marriage and ugly bastard stories were far less hot because people didn’t like it.Even I didn’t like it but neighbour chironicles was the first story that made ugly bastard hot for me and many other readers.

I think every writer has the right to chose the characters and tell the story accoring to his liking and do whatever he want to do with the characters. Problem with most of the stories is inconsistency in character design and neglecting character motivations and feelings to achieve the conclusions they see fit without putting effort into making the decisions make sense. For example i recently read the story how far will you go and even though writing was upto par with writers like noviceavid it completely lacked character consistency. I know human emotions are complex but not so much that a guy give in to every choice of his wife ,how absured it might be and wife just neglect her husband’s feelings and needs just cuz she get drunk on bull’s dick. I know women usually catch feeling for one they have sex with but even most serial of cheaters feel guilt and remorse if they ever loved their spouse which most aurthor neglect to get to a conclusion.

And i think most aurthors who write stories are capable of writing stories which have good consistency but they either are motivated by their audience or they work according to a formula which is market tested. I still hope that many aurthors are there who are experimenting with different story ideas. As i have not read your story i can’t give any feedback. I just wanted to talk to a author so i can get his opinion on the matter. English is not my mother tongue,still i hope i was successful in putting my point forward.
Agreed, though i have read the contact and it is so well put. Kudos to Sire.
 
Oh yeah, you've been completely brainwashed by stories like *TA*. If, to you, a story is only interesting when the husband is a pathetic spineless wimp who keeps letting himself be humiliated more and more without doing anything, the wife is a brainless slut with no respect for her husband, and the bull is a walking cliché—a filthy fat slob who's somehow a sex god—then there's really no hope for your story.

And you talk about character development? What kind of development is it when the husband just becomes dumber and more controlled by his fetish? What kind of development is it when the wife becomes so addicted to the bull that she no longer respects or loves her husband? What kind of development is it when the bull is portrayed as all-powerful despite his appearance suggesting the complete opposite?

At the end of the day, it's your story, but claiming there can't be character development unless the husband is weak and the wife isn't enough of a slut is quite a statement. You simply sacrificed the couple's love and chemistry to make hardcore cuckold content for the people willing to pay, just like Don's and so many others.

Go ahead and keep copying *TA*. Make us dream. Make James even weaker and dumber than Dan, make Jenna even more of a treacherous, loveless slut than Sarah, and make Ray an even fatter, uglier, stinkier bull who's somehow an even greater sex god than Lester. That'll be some great character development, w
on't it?
Well it seems that is the formula that everyone writing is following. As they all kinda mimic each other. They're stretching chapter after chapter of the same repetitious drivel and nonsense that you can't tell one chapter from the next. We basically already know what's gonna happen before we read it were just wondering how bad it will be. Plot holes that are forgotten about seem to be another norm that is common now.
Don is prolly bringing in around 12 bands a month, they all what to be next in line. I just don't see another story line doing it though. But Don has a lot of losers feeding down the road of stupidity and he's a big a whore as the bitch he writes about.
 
Don’t bother trying to make people happy because you can’t. There will always be somebody – usually somebody who doesn’t write themselves – who wants to complain about how they would’ve written something different and of course MUCH better. Except they don’t write anything different. Or at all. They just complain about people who do write and produce content.

My fave sub plot of this thread is the people who show up and complain ā€œTA has sucked for the last 20+ chapters!ā€ And yet here they are still fucking reading it, and still fucking complaining about it. Like nobody realizes they have the option of not reading stories they don’t (or no longer) like.

I am an artist. If somebody doesn’t like - or even ā€œhatesā€ – something I produce, that’s fine. Art is subjective. The ones I find amusing are the ones who show up and say ā€œyou should’ve done it this way.ā€ Like no bro I shouldn’t have. You should go produce your own art because what you’re telling me is the piece ā€œshould beā€ something entirely different. But the difference is, if I wanted to produce something different, I could have. You on the other hand can’t.

So I don’t care about the cuck element in these stories at all. I am quite fascinated by the contrast, though. Older man seduces younger woman/ugly guy seduces beauty. Do I complain about the parts where the cuck obsesses over how he’s a wimpy husband and he never should’ve allowed this? Nope. I just skip over those parts. And then I don’t complain about how including them somehow ruins the story. It doesn’t.

I really enjoy your writing. You can really make a sex scene cook. You’re very good at creating the world you’ve created. Thank you for that. I appreciate your work. Don’t let the critics get you down. They’re like eunuchs at palace – they see it done every night but they can’t do it themselves.
Oh shut up, who gives a shit if someone that doesn't write themselves has a problem with the direction the story is heading. People watch football every weekend in the fall that have never played. I like the watch the "isle of mann" race, but I'm sure as shit not gonna take off on my fire blade @180 through the city streets. Sire is following the boring troupe as ever other dumbass with half an ideal and a keyboard. It's boring, if they want to know how it's going play out all they have to do is keep up wit T/A. You need to grow up, you act like he's the next Nora Roberts.
 
Well it seems that is the formula that everyone writing is following. As they all kinda mimic each other. They're stretching chapter after chapter of the same repetitious drivel and nonsense that you can't tell one chapter from the next. We basically already know what's gonna happen before we read it were just wondering how bad it will be. Plot holes that are forgotten about seem to be another norm that is common now.
Don is prolly bringing in around 12 bands a month, they all what to be next in line. I just don't see another story line doing it though. But Don has a lot of losers feeding down the road of stupidity and he's a big a whore as the bitch he writes about.
Imagine if someone wrote a book and just shared it. Would people pay them enough for it? Probably not. Thus we're stuck with this weird subscriber system which is similar to the serial writing style of the 1800s iirc.

The word count on these stories is insane.

War and Peace is 587,287, and I think a one of the recently posted documents was 300k words or something. So we're taking huge works where nothing really happens.

Perhaps authors should do a sort of commission fund where they present a concept, have character options and a list of potential kinks and just raise the money to write and release it. More like an artist than a subscription service. Either way, paying for people to write fiction is better than gambling or paying a giant corporation. I won't shame them unless they don't really like their own art. Then it's empty and shallow.
 
8 parts. Just finished I think. Pretty good though I skipped around a bit. https://www.literotica.com/series/se/making-up-for-lost-time
I read the six chapters on the Litorica site. The woman gets involved with her son's friend; there is no longer any intimacy (in Chapter 5, he realizes his wife harbors a love for Jacob that she never showed him or their son), yet everything seems fine on the surface (there isn't even a question like "Do you love him?"). The husband is going to find out she's a "sussy" and become his wife's best friend. Who could live like that—being ignored and humiliated, knowing his wife doesn't love him anymore? The husband knows nothing; he lives in the dark while being cheated on. You could write it so that the husband had an accident, hit his head, was knocked unconscious, and came back changed.
 
8 parts. Just finished I think. Pretty good though I skipped around a bit. https://www.literotica.com/series/se/making-up-for-lost-time
I think it's only up to 7. My bad.

The author's page doesn't show the 7th chapter but it's here.
I read up to book 6, and now that I’ve read book 7, the story has gotten worse. It’s becoming completely nonsensical. Where is the couple's son? The friend showed up, but what about the son? Doesn't the son wish his father a happy birthday? The husband watches his wife fall for another man and is fine with it; she neglects and constantly rejects her husband, yet everything is supposedly great. Were they actually married for 20 years?
 
I read up to book 6, and now that I’ve read book 7, the story has gotten worse. It’s becoming completely nonsensical. Where is the couple's son? The friend showed up, but what about the son? Doesn't the son wish his father a happy birthday? The husband watches his wife fall for another man and is fine with it; she neglects and constantly rejects her husband, yet everything is supposedly great. Were they actually married for 20 years?
Yes this story become more ridiculous every chapter, how a teenager humiliate a grown man like this. Wife doesnt even love her husband anymore and the pregnancy kink is such a joke.
 
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