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Looking for Don Silver thread Toxic Attraction chapters

8 parts. Just finished I think. Pretty good though I skipped around a bit. https://www.literotica.com/series/se/making-up-for-lost-time
I read the six chapters on the Litorica site. The woman gets involved with her son's friend; there is no longer any intimacy (in Chapter 5, he realizes his wife harbors a love for Jacob that she never showed him or their son), yet everything seems fine on the surface (there isn't even a question like "Do you love him?"). The husband is going to find out she's a "sussy" and become his wife's best friend. Who could live like that—being ignored and humiliated, knowing his wife doesn't love him anymore? The husband knows nothing; he lives in the dark while being cheated on. You could write it so that the husband had an accident, hit his head, was knocked unconscious, and came back changed.
 
8 parts. Just finished I think. Pretty good though I skipped around a bit. https://www.literotica.com/series/se/making-up-for-lost-time
I think it's only up to 7. My bad.

The author's page doesn't show the 7th chapter but it's here.
I read up to book 6, and now that I’ve read book 7, the story has gotten worse. It’s becoming completely nonsensical. Where is the couple's son? The friend showed up, but what about the son? Doesn't the son wish his father a happy birthday? The husband watches his wife fall for another man and is fine with it; she neglects and constantly rejects her husband, yet everything is supposedly great. Were they actually married for 20 years?
 
I read up to book 6, and now that I’ve read book 7, the story has gotten worse. It’s becoming completely nonsensical. Where is the couple's son? The friend showed up, but what about the son? Doesn't the son wish his father a happy birthday? The husband watches his wife fall for another man and is fine with it; she neglects and constantly rejects her husband, yet everything is supposedly great. Were they actually married for 20 years?
Yes this story become more ridiculous every chapter, how a teenager humiliate a grown man like this. Wife doesnt even love her husband anymore and the pregnancy kink is such a joke.
 
It is interesting to consider writing the kind of story you guys want. I would be down to give it a shot if you didn’t immediately post chapters of the contact (which you don’t like anyway) here the day after I release them on smashwords! Yeesh, i only have one paid chapter, the rest are free after a month!

That said, I would have to understand the actual structure of what you guys want better. If you want the husband to have a strong backbone, and the wife to not be a slut for the other man or enjoy him much at all, then there isn’t a lot of room for length and development, no?

Like is the premise that both the husband and wife do not want the wife to have sex with the other man, but some outside plot mechanic makes it so they have to? Then the husband saves her?

Or does the wife start cheating then the husband is angry so he divorces her? And we get a chapter on how good the husbands life becomes and how bad hers is?

Or does the husband want the wife to see another man and she is just reluctant the whole time? And the husband is in charge and manipulating both the wife and the other man?

Or is everyone just happy with all the boundaries and theres no conflict at all? The wife wants both her husband and the other man, the other man likes the wife but respects the couples boundaries, the husband is happy with the situation and in control. Seems like this gets boring pretty quick?

First i would like to thank you for all your efforts in producing the work The Contact. It is much appreciated not only by myself but many others as well and although i enjoy being able to get access to stories i do hope that your patreon account provides you significant recompense for your work as it is a much higher standard than Don Silver and others. I also hope you don't pay heed to the negativity presented by some on this forum. Those that can do those who cant criticise.

In my life and in my marriage I have always been focused on the woman/wife being provided pleasure and enjoy stories where a world of experience is opened up to them. Of course I then get frustrated when a woman experiences one thing out of the marriage and then denies the husband others might enjoy this kink nut its not for me which is why I like Vivian white's works such as Cuckold Consequences , Whats left unsaid and Trinity three and one.

The thing that seems to be required for the lifestyle to work is the wife including the husband and if humiliation is involved then aftercare. where these fail is when someone comes between the husband and wife through manipulation or lies and the wife choses to side with someone outside her marriage. I still enjoy reading them but it becomes more challenging and its only for the final reveal when all the cards are on the table that keeps me going. Presently the one that irks me the most is Leroy in Slipping into Depravity.

I haven't finished chapter 8 yet, as mentioned its a tough slog dealing with the frustrations i feel with James. the threatening the attempts of control which Ray pushes past because of the lie with james being as smart as he is he should have worked out where things are going and decide if he wants to be the cuck and what that means ore realise each time he concedes more is taken. unfortunately Jenna now reinforces the kink forcing him to be condoms. If she was able to be ok with Ray coming inside due to the timing in the month she should have let James at some point in their marriage done the same , although it seems she is too dominant for him.

If james accepts where this is all going he should confess and let the wife make an informed decision. but i guess that what i keep reading for.

Thanks again for all your efforts.
 
Like is the premise that both the husband and wife do not want the wife to have sex with the other man, but some outside plot mechanic makes it so they have to? Then the husband saves her?
I don't think you should change *Contact* specifically to meet the readers' current requests; you should probably finish out the setup you're developing in this series (I haven't read the story yet, I'm waiting until you're done so I can read it all at once and not agonize over waiting for new chapters)

But as for ideas for the future, I really like stories where external circumstances force a wife to cheat on her husband - including right in front of him - even though neither she nor her husband wants this at first, right up to the noncon genre. From there, you can develop this setup however you like. The wife might break down and start enjoying it; the husband might save her or lose her by the end of the story. It’s a matter of taste.
 
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First i would like to thank you for all your efforts in producing the work The Contact. It is much appreciated not only by myself but many others as well and although i enjoy being able to get access to stories i do hope that your patreon account provides you significant recompense for your work as it is a much higher standard than Don Silver and others. I also hope you don't pay heed to the negativity presented by some on this forum. Those that can do those who cant criticise.

In my life and in my marriage I have always been focused on the woman/wife being provided pleasure and enjoy stories where a world of experience is opened up to them. Of course I then get frustrated when a woman experiences one thing out of the marriage and then denies the husband others might enjoy this kink nut its not for me which is why I like Vivian white's works such as Cuckold Consequences , Whats left unsaid and Trinity three and one.

The thing that seems to be required for the lifestyle to work is the wife including the husband and if humiliation is involved then aftercare. where these fail is when someone comes between the husband and wife through manipulation or lies and the wife choses to side with someone outside her marriage. I still enjoy reading them but it becomes more challenging and its only for the final reveal when all the cards are on the table that keeps me going. Presently the one that irks me the most is Leroy in Slipping into Depravity.

I haven't finished chapter 8 yet, as mentioned its a tough slog dealing with the frustrations i feel with James. the threatening the attempts of control which Ray pushes past because of the lie with james being as smart as he is he should have worked out where things are going and decide if he wants to be the cuck and what that means ore realise each time he concedes more is taken. unfortunately Jenna now reinforces the kink forcing him to be condoms. If she was able to be ok with Ray coming inside due to the timing in the month she should have let James at some point in their marriage done the same , although it seems she is too dominant for him.

If james accepts where this is all going he should confess and let the wife make an informed decision. but i guess that what i keep reading for.

Thanks again for all your efforts.
It would be interesting to see someone admit that they are on a train wreck course and say they don't really have faith in their relationship because they are both pushing each other away.
 
Explain to me how I'm reading a different story. Did you read the latest chapter, where Jenna lies to and betrays her husband without any hesitation and any guilt ? Where she admits she's never had as much chemistry with him as she has with the fat slob Ray? Where she only gives her husband a token handjob because Ray tells her to, all while lying straight to his face?

Did you genuinely feel any love in Jenna's actions toward her husband? And what do you think about James changing his mind in the span of two seconds, completely influenced by Ray and his own fantasy?

Are you sure its me who read a different story ?
Yes, I am problably reading a different story or, at least, with a different perception. I am one of those who complained about DS path to Toxic Attraction, two or so years ago. Mostly because he charges too much for almost nothing. He is repetitive. However, I never said to those who like TA they were wrong.
Until now we have Sire, who writes a decent story, not better or worst than many others around, but is capable of sharing with us almost for free.

You said: "Did you genuinely feel any love in Jenna's actions toward her husband? And what do you think about James changing his mind in the span of two seconds, completely influenced by Ray and his own fantasy?"

In real life, there are so many things people do to themselves or others that we doubt human intelligence.
So be patient and give us your thoughts without sounding like you're desperate for attention. Would you do this?
 
Oh shut up, who gives a shit if someone that doesn't write themselves has a problem with the direction the story is heading. People watch football every weekend in the fall that have never played. I like the watch the "isle of mann" race, but I'm sure as shit not gonna take off on my fire blade @180 through the city streets. Sire is following the boring troupe as ever other dumbass with half an ideal and a keyboard. It's boring, if they want to know how it's going play out all they have to do is keep up wit T/A. You need to grow up, you act like he's the next Nora Roberts

{Edit: Can’t be arsed.}

Does anyone have BND 18 and 19?
 
First i would like to thank you for all your efforts in producing the work The Contact. It is much appreciated not only by myself but many others as well and although i enjoy being able to get access to stories i do hope that your patreon account provides you significant recompense for your work as it is a much higher standard than Don Silver and others. I also hope you don't pay heed to the negativity presented by some on this forum. Those that can do those who cant criticise.

In my life and in my marriage I have always been focused on the woman/wife being provided pleasure and enjoy stories where a world of experience is opened up to them. Of course I then get frustrated when a woman experiences one thing out of the marriage and then denies the husband others might enjoy this kink nut its not for me which is why I like Vivian white's works such as Cuckold Consequences , Whats left unsaid and Trinity three and one.

The thing that seems to be required for the lifestyle to work is the wife including the husband and if humiliation is involved then aftercare. where these fail is when someone comes between the husband and wife through manipulation or lies and the wife choses to side with someone outside her marriage. I still enjoy reading them but it becomes more challenging and its only for the final reveal when all the cards are on the table that keeps me going. Presently the one that irks me the most is Leroy in Slipping into Depravity.

I haven't finished chapter 8 yet, as mentioned its a tough slog dealing with the frustrations i feel with James. the threatening the attempts of control which Ray pushes past because of the lie with james being as smart as he is he should have worked out where things are going and decide if he wants to be the cuck and what that means ore realise each time he concedes more is taken. unfortunately Jenna now reinforces the kink forcing him to be condoms. If she was able to be ok with Ray coming inside due to the timing in the month she should have let James at some point in their marriage done the same , although it seems she is too dominant for him.

If james accepts where this is all going he should confess and let the wife make an informed decision. but i guess that what i keep reading for.

Thanks again for all your efforts.
I completely agree with everything you wrote - especially being frustrated w/ James. He's gone from a seemingly strong character to a shell of who initially introduced as (maybe this is who he has been all along). I enjoy the angst of these stories until they get unbelievable, so drawn out it becomes a reading skim session, or painfully repetative.
I've really enjoyed The Contact & look forward to continuing character development & arc.
 
Yes, I am problably reading a different story or, at least, with a different perception. I am one of those who complained about DS path to Toxic Attraction, two or so years ago. Mostly because he charges too much for almost nothing. He is repetitive. However, I never said to those who like TA they were wrong.
Until now we have Sire, who writes a decent story, not better or worst than many others around, but is capable of sharing with us almost for free.

You said: "Did you genuinely feel any love in Jenna's actions toward her husband? And what do you think about James changing his mind in the span of two seconds, completely influenced by Ray and his own fantasy?"

In real life, there are so many things people do to themselves or others that we doubt human intelligence.
So be patient and give us your thoughts without sounding like you're desperate for attention. Would you do this?

Desperate for attention ? You keep provoking me by saying I'm reading a different story, even though I've explained my point of view with arguments and specific examples. I ask you questions, and you're completely unable to answer them.

I'm simply giving my opinion in a reasoned way. If you disagree, that's perfectly fine. But telling me I'm reading a different story just to try to prove I'm wrong, when I've backed up my points with arguments and examples while you can't even cite a single example from the story, is pretty ridiculous.
 
Desperate for attention ? You keep provoking me by saying I'm reading a different story, even though I've explained my point of view with arguments and specific examples. I ask you questions, and you're completely unable to answer them.

I'm simply giving my opinion in a reasoned way. If you disagree, that's perfectly fine. But telling me I'm reading a different story just to try to prove I'm wrong, when I've backed up my points with arguments and examples while you can't even cite a single example from the story, is pretty ridiculous.
Ok. You're right.
 
Alright I've waded thru a lot of this thread (which is a bit out of control but such is life). The gofile links that are more than a week old don't work, not sure why people aren't just uploading to THIS SITE since that's what its for. But anyways, can anybody get me a copy of Executive Privilege thru Ch 18 or whatever is current? I post A LOT OF STUFF HERE.
 
Have to say that I too am thoroughly enjoying the contact story and looking forward to getting a read of ch 8

First i would like to thank you for all your efforts in producing the work The Contact. It is much appreciated not only by myself but many others as well and although i enjoy being able to get access to stories i do hope that your patreon account provides you significant recompense for your work as it is a much higher standard than Don Silver and others. I also hope you don't pay heed to the negativity presented by some on this forum. Those that can do those who cant criticise.

In my life and in my marriage I have always been focused on the woman/wife being provided pleasure and enjoy stories where a world of experience is opened up to them. Of course I then get frustrated when a woman experiences one thing out of the marriage and then denies the husband others might enjoy this kink nut its not for me which is why I like Vivian white's works such as Cuckold Consequences , Whats left unsaid and Trinity three and one.

The thing that seems to be required for the lifestyle to work is the wife including the husband and if humiliation is involved then aftercare. where these fail is when someone comes between the husband and wife through manipulation or lies and the wife choses to side with someone outside her marriage. I still enjoy reading them but it becomes more challenging and its only for the final reveal when all the cards are on the table that keeps me going. Presently the one that irks me the most is Leroy in Slipping into Depravity.

I haven't finished chapter 8 yet, as mentioned its a tough slog dealing with the frustrations i feel with James. the threatening the attempts of control which Ray pushes past because of the lie with james being as smart as he is he should have worked out where things are going and decide if he wants to be the cuck and what that means ore realise each time he concedes more is taken. unfortunately Jenna now reinforces the kink forcing him to be condoms. If she was able to be ok with Ray coming inside due to the timing in the month she should have let James at some point in their marriage done the same , although it seems she is too dominant for him.

If james accepts where this is all going he should confess and let the wife make an informed decision. but i guess that what i keep reading for.

Thanks again for all your efforts.

so now i have read chapter 8, took a couple of attempts due to angst i feel with Ray's manipulation and James weakness. I need to keep remembering James deserves what he gets somewhat.

So Jenna has definitely broken the rules 1. Ray was not allowed to come in her and 2. nothing should come between Jenna and James.
the first was self evident but the second is the gold chain she wore it to the ball with out telling husband. now the question is what James does about it. He could try giving the word and trying to end it all but with no reasoning i feel Jenna would not follow and go back to Ray ( this is my prediction for the next chapter).

If James wants to confront Jenna then he needs to lead with Ray Blackmailing him and then Ray manipulating Jenna. If he starts with the original scenario or Ray impersonating him then Jenna will be angry with James for his betrayal and lets face facts i don't think Jenna would be that upset anymore about the manipulation its led to her getting the sexual experience she has always craved even though she didn't know it.

The other thing to point out Jenna doesn't seem to realise the way she treats her husband regarding the condoms and the way she ties them off and puts them to the side is an element of humiliation and demeans him. he may get off on it , but she's cultivated that.

hard to imagine a happy ending for James in all this.
 
Alright I've waded thru a lot of this thread (which is a bit out of control but such is life). The gofile links that are more than a week old don't work, not sure why people aren't just uploading to THIS SITE since that's what its for. But anyways, can anybody get me a copy of Executive Privilege thru Ch 18 or whatever is current? I post A LOT OF STUFF HERE.
Agree this thread is getting out of hand
Anyways here you
 

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Mind responding to the content of my initial comment?

I didn't say "a story is only interesting when the husband is a pathetic spineless wimp who keeps letting himself be humiliated more and more without doing anything, the wife is a brainless slut with no respect for her husband, and the bull is a walking cliché—a filthy fat slob who's somehow a sex god"

I said "It is interesting to consider writing the kind of story you guys want." Then I named 4 possible gists where it could work, but noted some structural constraints for some (that they would probably have to end relatively quickly, which isn't the end of the world). This was meant to have some constructive dialogue about how a story under certain pillars might work.

I understand you are able to criticize "the contact", but I am moreso asking about what the shape is of the alternative that you seem to want. You know what things are by saying what they are, not enumerating what they are not. Just trying to better understand.

You clearly said, “If you want the husband to have a strong backbone, and the wife to not be a slut for the other man or enjoy him much at all, then there isn’t a lot of room for length and development,” which basically means that with a strong husband, there is no room for development.

As for your four possible plot ideas, the first three wouldn’t really fit your story. The fourth one could have worked and wouldn’t necessarily have been boring. But the original premise, with a more stag/vixen direction, would have been perfect, with a strong husband who understands his fantasy but doesn’t let it get out of control. A woman who wants to be a slut with the bull, but especially with her husband.

The bull can have a huge dick, but with his fat, disgusting physique, you could make him more believable by giving him less stamina, for example, or making him unable to go for a second round. He can want to corrupt the wife and manipulate the husband without actually succeeding. The most important thing is to maintain a strong and loving relationship between the husband and wife, which you destroyed in three chapters with all the betrayals, lies, and, above all, Jenna’s lack of love and intimacy with James.

The denial can be fun at first, but when a supposedly loving wife gives her lover so much more than she gives her husband, it stops being interesting.

I can understand your fascination with hard cuck and with TA, but everyone agrees that making the MC weak, stupid, and controlled by his fantasy, while the FMC has no love for her husband, enjoys humiliating him, has no intimacy with him anymore, and basically gets brainwashed because of the fat guy’s magic dick aka James Bond, is what ruined TA and the other hard cuck stories.

The continuation of your story is so easy to predict. Either James won’t confront Jenna because he doesn’t want to interfere with his fantasy, or he’ll say something, but she’ll lie to him or turn the situation around by playing on his fantasy. The story will go further and further, with the husband becoming increasingly cuckolded and weak, while the wife becomes increasingly cruel, slutty for the bull, and devoid of love.

And then, as the grand finale, Lester
 Ray will get Jenna pregnant like he wanted from the beginning, and Jenna will convince James to raise the child because that’s the ultimate form of cuckoldry.

But honestly, if you want to sell as many chapters as possible, keep going down this hard-cuck path with increasingly extreme humiliation and practices. Some ideas, if Jenna manipulates James well, he’ll soon be licking Ray’s cum off her ass or pussy; Jenna will probably lick Ray’s asshole soon too, something she obviously won’t do for her husband. Why not also introduce another female character so Ray can have a FFM threesome that James will never get to experience?
 
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