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Hello guys,
Long time lurker here.
I created this account because of this opportunity to add feedback.
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In your statement, you have highlighted some interesting points and illustrated them with examples from other stories.
It is to be hoped that the author, ā€˜Sire Reichenbach’, will think about the most of these ideas.

It remains to be seen how this will develop in the coming chapters and which path she will take.
An analysis of the preceding chapters makes it clear that the plot could develop in two different directions.
On the one hand, there is the possibility that the development hinted at in the last two chapters will continue, resembling the story ā€˜TA’ mentioned earlier.
On the other hand, the plot could also take a new turn, in which the husband’s (James) presence comes to the fore and he resists the attempts at manipulation by the pair (Jenna and Ray). It is, in particular, the intention behind the plot that the pair are pursuing: to make him compliant and turn him into a weak, spineless supporting character.

At one point, he has reduced himself to a figure who can be described as undignified and dishonourable. This happened when he saved Jenna’s arse in front of her boss. In this scenario, he presented himself as the sole initiator and person responsible of Jenna's sexual encounter with Ray.
In doing so, he sacrificed himself for her and humiliated himself, all for her sake!
In the eighth chapter, the humiliation went even further: his (supposedly loving) wife treated him like a snail and ignored him as if he were a used handkerchief.

If Jenna (assuming that James reveals the reason why he led her into Ray’s company at the start) were to seek out Ray’s company with the intention of being close to him and were to go to him, James would have no choice but to separate from her.
It would be interesting to observe what efforts Jenna would make to win back her estranged husband.
This aspect could serve as a motivation for all the protagonists to find a solution to the new situation that has arisen.

-- PC
 
Hello guys,
Long time lurker here.
I created this account because of this opportunity to add feedback.
I am serial buyer of hotwife erotica, always looking for the stories that match my taste, which has been dificult to satisfy.
I bought the 5 available volumes of the The Contact on Kobo after reading the "previews" here, so thanks for them.

sire_richenbach asked about the genres we like. My favourite BY FAR is the one on this quote: "Like is the premise that both the husband and wife do not want the wife to have sex with the other man, but some outside plot mechanic makes it so they have to? Then the husband saves her?". I think it's the one where the love of the couple is best preserved and the one that can be connected to real life. I don't know much stories on the genre. I rate Beat and the Beauties from kingbooruwa as a fine example https://www.literotica.com/series/se/410840. It was also the story that lead to me buy King B's - the author's Amazon name - entire book library, even if some of the others are more hardcore.

There's another one more recently, not on this site, from Stella Wynne on Amazon, called "The Kinky Housewife: Falling for the older neighbor" that's very hot and long, though it doesn't have the husband saving part. But it feels rather natural.
Another example more known here is Newlywed New Desires from Maddox Storrey, though the turnaround happens very late and it's point I am going to address on my review of The Contact a bit later down here.

I was at the end and remember yet another one: Alex Jamieson's "My Hotwife the Spy" two volume story series. Very good.

I too dispute this quote: "Or is everyone just happy with all the boundaries and theres no conflict at all? The wife wants both her husband and the other man, the other man likes the wife but respects the couples boundaries, the husband is happy with the situation and in control. Seems like this gets boring pretty quick?" but with a receipt sort to speak. The recent, on Amazon, "Our First Wife-Sharing Experience at a Naturist Campground" from Wild Camper Secrets has the wife becoming a size queen but the husband from the start wants a new woman and the wife agrees. It's a long story but single volume. I understand sire_richenbach's reluntanct to write stories like this as they are indeed hard to into monetizable serials - they work best as standalone books.

But everyone has their tastes. With stories like, what The Contact is turning to be and most of Peter G Johnson stories, I buy the volumes until the wife loses respect for the husband - because without respect, saying "i love you" are just words - and with Peter that's usually volume 1, which is a shame as he has the best premises in the business - IMHO.

Now The Contact, I should have dropped it when the wife disrespected the husband at volume 2-3 with the SA charge but moving on. I decided to keep playing the findom cuck for a while longer.
The story is a risky bet as there are volumes with little to no sex so the plot has to stand. I respect the sire_richenbach for going that route but be careful. There's a whole different between what the characters say and what they do.
Volume 7 ended somewhat promising but the premise of volume 8 was ominious, the content even worse. As it is, the decision to buy volume 8 hinges on the plot of volume 9 for me and I don't think that's good. And that's because volume 9, unless some moneymaking plot device is used - will show is the husband is just a warrior in his mind or if he can actually decide and do anything other than being a passive cuck.
As a reader, I don't like the angst of having to wait for more to see if the character I identify the most has a good plot or not. In this stories, it makes feel like a cuck and I despise cucks, which ends with a no purchase.
I mentioned Newlywed Newdesires before and I will add Kirsten Mccurran's "The new wife on Milford Court". I only bought the series after the release of volume 4 - the last - and reading it to avoid a repeat of the disapoint of the similar "Tempting Kate" from Michael Andersen. With The Contact running up to 15 volumes, there's a risk of buyers with a dispositon similar to mine to wait for the release of the final volume to decide if the series is worth spending the money or not.

I will end this with a proper review of The Contact Volume 8 okay?
I use a lot of IA on my work and its presence was felt. I don't mind it being used. If it's IA only is very good and I am curious about the models used. The sentence structure of the wife describing the husband seemed rather OpenAI or some version of Claude - I mostly use Claude. But the dashes, oh the long "-" were cringe. Even if you use IA to clean up the text like I do in my work documents, be more careful with the final touches.
I liked the final sequence with the husband becoming aware of the wife not acting as his partner. I don't like his lack of action but it's part of the plot. I don't know where the story goes but be careful with writing yourself into a corner. At the current point, I see the wife finding the original premise for the corruption and siding with the lover because he showed himself to be the superior man. That could be an ending but if not, where to take the story from there? Total corruption, TA-style? That's an option too and your choice.
Also be careful of becoming "type-casted" though. I don't touch Manus Dare stories for ex. On the other hand, be careful about branching out and losing your audience - Alex Lee was an instant buy for me but after he joined the group of Kirst MCcurran and the others he became more hardcore and more "word-count averse".
I am also looking at the other story too. So far it has little to offer so I am on the fence. Waiting for more.

And after this wall of text, I am off. Sorry for the long post. I just wanted to add constructive criticism.

A very good analysis of the genre and of the story. I took a look at Beasts and Beauties, and I really didn't like the whole hybrid and mad scientist plot about getting revenge by creating a new species—especially the part where the couple is thinking about cuckolding while they're being held captive.

I also share your preferences when the love between the couple is best preserved and feels grounded in real life, as well as your dislike of disrespect and the lack of love shown by the FMCs.

As for The Contact, it's true that AI is used, but I think it's done well. My view is that as long as the ideas come from the author, getting help with the writing itself doesn't really matter.

I hope I'll be able to read more of your recommendations and criticism in the future. Thanks.
 
In your statement, you have highlighted some interesting points and illustrated them with examples from other stories.
It is to be hoped that the author, ā€˜Sire Reichenbach’, will think about the most of these ideas.

It remains to be seen how this will develop in the coming chapters and which path she will take.
An analysis of the preceding chapters makes it clear that the plot could develop in two different directions.
On the one hand, there is the possibility that the development hinted at in the last two chapters will continue, resembling the story ā€˜TA’ mentioned earlier.
On the other hand, the plot could also take a new turn, in which the husband’s (James) presence comes to the fore and he resists the attempts at manipulation by the pair (Jenna and Ray). It is, in particular, the intention behind the plot that the pair are pursuing: to make him compliant and turn him into a weak, spineless supporting character.

At one point, he has reduced himself to a figure who can be described as undignified and dishonourable. This happened when he saved Jenna’s arse in front of her boss. In this scenario, he presented himself as the sole initiator and person responsible of Jenna's sexual encounter with Ray.
In doing so, he sacrificed himself for her and humiliated himself, all for her sake!
In the eighth chapter, the humiliation went even further: his (supposedly loving) wife treated him like a snail and ignored him as if he were a used handkerchief.

If Jenna (assuming that James reveals the reason why he led her into Ray’s company at the start) were to seek out Ray’s company with the intention of being close to him and were to go to him, James would have no choice but to separate from her.
It would be interesting to observe what efforts Jenna would make to win back her estranged husband.
This aspect could serve as a motivation for all the protagonists to find a solution to the new situation that has arisen.

-- PC

As always, that's a very good analysis. I especially agree with your point about James sacrificing his dignity and enduring humiliation to save his wife. The worst part is that he got absolutely nothing special in return—not even a heartfelt declaration of love or a tender intimate moment. Meanwhile, Ray gets an incredible fuck simply for acting possessive toward her during dinner.

As for the two possible directions you mentioned, I think the story is heading toward something very similar to TA. The author has incorporated so many elements that mirror TA that it almost feels like a tribute to it. It's probably in his best interest if he wants to sell more copies, but it won't be either interesting or original.

I really like your idea where Jenna grows so close to Ray, while showing James less and less love, affection, and companionship, that James eventually leaves her. Then the roles are reversed, and Jenna is the one who has to win him back. It would be even more interesting if Ray hadn't anticipated that outcome and watched the situation spiral out of his control, causing him to make fatal mistakes that ruin his career. A guy like him has almost certainly done illegal things to reach the top of his career despite being an overweight, foul-smelling, thoroughly repulsive person.
 
Okay here's an ePub for Executive Priviledge 1-19 for those who want it. Thanks so much zxcv1029!
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And here's Slipping into Depravity Ch 1-50 as a text file. I'd convert it but I can't seem to figure out how to preserve line breaks in the conversion etc etc and its getting too painful. If somebody wants to convert to PDF/ePub have at it.

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A very good analysis of the genre and of the story. I took a look at Beasts and Beauties, and I really didn't like the whole hybrid and mad scientist plot about getting revenge by creating a new species—especially the part where the couple is thinking about cuckolding while they're being held captive.

I also share your preferences when the love between the couple is best preserved and feels grounded in real life, as well as your dislike of disrespect and the lack of love shown by the FMCs.

As for The Contact, it's true that AI is used, but I think it's done well. My view is that as long as the ideas come from the author, getting help with the writing itself doesn't really matter.

I hope I'll be able to read more of your recommendations and criticism in the future. Thanks.
I think the main issue is that none should be compensated if they use it. I mean, it means little being that we pirate already but damn, don't use AI and ask for money. People might as well charge for the file links for other people's stories.
 
Hello guys,
Long time lurker here.
I created this account because of this opportunity to add feedback.
I am serial buyer of hotwife erotica, always looking for the stories that match my taste, which has been dificult to satisfy.
I bought the 5 available volumes of the The Contact on Kobo after reading the "previews" here, so thanks for them.

sire_richenbach asked about the genres we like. My favourite BY FAR is the one on this quote: "Like is the premise that both the husband and wife do not want the wife to have sex with the other man, but some outside plot mechanic makes it so they have to? Then the husband saves her?". I think it's the one where the love of the couple is best preserved and the one that can be connected to real life. I don't know much stories on the genre. I rate Beat and the Beauties from kingbooruwa as a fine example https://www.literotica.com/series/se/410840. It was also the story that lead to me buy King B's - the author's Amazon name - entire book library, even if some of the others are more hardcore.

There's another one more recently, not on this site, from Stella Wynne on Amazon, called "The Kinky Housewife: Falling for the older neighbor" that's very hot and long, though it doesn't have the husband saving part. But it feels rather natural.
Another example more known here is Newlywed New Desires from Maddox Storrey, though the turnaround happens very late and it's point I am going to address on my review of The Contact a bit later down here.

I was at the end and remember yet another one: Alex Jamieson's "My Hotwife the Spy" two volume story series. Very good.

I too dispute this quote: "Or is everyone just happy with all the boundaries and theres no conflict at all? The wife wants both her husband and the other man, the other man likes the wife but respects the couples boundaries, the husband is happy with the situation and in control. Seems like this gets boring pretty quick?" but with a receipt sort to speak. The recent, on Amazon, "Our First Wife-Sharing Experience at a Naturist Campground" from Wild Camper Secrets has the wife becoming a size queen but the husband from the start wants a new woman and the wife agrees. It's a long story but single volume. I understand sire_richenbach's reluntanct to write stories like this as they are indeed hard to into monetizable serials - they work best as standalone books.

But everyone has their tastes. With stories like, what The Contact is turning to be and most of Peter G Johnson stories, I buy the volumes until the wife loses respect for the husband - because without respect, saying "i love you" are just words - and with Peter that's usually volume 1, which is a shame as he has the best premises in the business - IMHO.

Now The Contact, I should have dropped it when the wife disrespected the husband at volume 2-3 with the SA charge but moving on. I decided to keep playing the findom cuck for a while longer.
The story is a risky bet as there are volumes with little to no sex so the plot has to stand. I respect the sire_richenbach for going that route but be careful. There's a whole different between what the characters say and what they do.
Volume 7 ended somewhat promising but the premise of volume 8 was ominious, the content even worse. As it is, the decision to buy volume 8 hinges on the plot of volume 9 for me and I don't think that's good. And that's because volume 9, unless some moneymaking plot device is used - will show is the husband is just a warrior in his mind or if he can actually decide and do anything other than being a passive cuck.
As a reader, I don't like the angst of having to wait for more to see if the character I identify the most has a good plot or not. In this stories, it makes feel like a cuck and I despise cucks, which ends with a no purchase.
I mentioned Newlywed Newdesires before and I will add Kirsten Mccurran's "The new wife on Milford Court". I only bought the series after the release of volume 4 - the last - and reading it to avoid a repeat of the disapoint of the similar "Tempting Kate" from Michael Andersen. With The Contact running up to 15 volumes, there's a risk of buyers with a dispositon similar to mine to wait for the release of the final volume to decide if the series is worth spending the money or not.

I will end this with a proper review of The Contact Volume 8 okay?
I use a lot of IA on my work and its presence was felt. I don't mind it being used. If it's IA only is very good and I am curious about the models used. The sentence structure of the wife describing the husband seemed rather OpenAI or some version of Claude - I mostly use Claude. But the dashes, oh the long "-" were cringe. Even if you use IA to clean up the text like I do in my work documents, be more careful with the final touches.
I liked the final sequence with the husband becoming aware of the wife not acting as his partner. I don't like his lack of action but it's part of the plot. I don't know where the story goes but be careful with writing yourself into a corner. At the current point, I see the wife finding the original premise for the corruption and siding with the lover because he showed himself to be the superior man. That could be an ending but if not, where to take the story from there? Total corruption, TA-style? That's an option too and your choice.
Also be careful of becoming "type-casted" though. I don't touch Manus Dare stories for ex. On the other hand, be careful about branching out and losing your audience - Alex Lee was an instant buy for me but after he joined the group of Kirst MCcurran and the others he became more hardcore and more "word-count averse".
I am also looking at the other story too. So far it has little to offer so I am on the fence. Waiting for more.

And after this wall of text, I am off. Sorry for the long post. I just wanted to add constructive criticism.



you might want t check out Vivian White/Valley her literotica page can be found here https://www.literotica.com/authors/RoleplayLiterate/works/stories
but if you want to support her patreon its here https://www.patreon.com/cw/VivianWhite Cuckold consequences is one of her best and i bought it after reading it on literotica to support her. The couple are not forced into cuckolding but the story is all about the husbands redemption arc
 
It is interesting to consider writing the kind of story you guys want. I would be down to give it a shot if you didn’t immediately post chapters of the contact (which you don’t like anyway) here the day after I release them on smashwords! Yeesh, i only have one paid chapter, the rest are free after a month!

That said, I would have to understand the actual structure of what you guys want better. If you want the husband to have a strong backbone, and the wife to not be a slut for the other man or enjoy him much at all, then there isn’t a lot of room for length and development, no?

Like is the premise that both the husband and wife do not want the wife to have sex with the other man, but some outside plot mechanic makes it so they have to? Then the husband saves her?

Or does the wife start cheating then the husband is angry so he divorces her? And we get a chapter on how good the husbands life becomes and how bad hers is?

Or does the husband want the wife to see another man and she is just reluctant the whole time? And the husband is in charge and manipulating both the wife and the other man?

Or is everyone just happy with all the boundaries and theres no conflict at all? The wife wants both her husband and the other man, the other man likes the wife but respects the couples boundaries, the husband is happy with the situation and in control. Seems like this gets boring pretty quick?
It is interesting when the woman, due to circumstances (involuntary, coerson, accidental, seduction, opportunity, peer pressure, pleasing, drug use, psychological pressure, issues with authority), discovers her inner slut, but step by step and a dynamic develops with her partner. She keeps a part (or bit) of that development to herself, which degenerates into white lies, creating guilt and shame as well; there is a risk that others will discover it. Also, a hidden, dark piece of the past that was concealed surfaces due to a trigger (whatever it may be). Preferably no idiotic big dick humiliation or being 100% slutty all the time and instantly wet with excitement at even a look (TA) ; yes, there is tension and there is losing oneself in the moment. Preferably the other man a bit normal, not such an unbelievable person like ugly ansd fat Lester who comes massively five times in a row. So, not drooling over a big cock. Her inner slut can have dark sides, allowing herself to be seduced into anal sex, availability for experiment. While that happens, it positively influences the connection and love with her partner. Because of her behavior, he starts looking at her differently, and other women come into the picture, creating a dynamic there as well.
 
Explain to me how I'm reading a different story. Did you read the latest chapter, where Jenna lies to and betrays her husband without any hesitation and any guilt ? Where she admits she's never had as much chemistry with him as she has with the fat slob Ray? Where she only gives her husband a token handjob because Ray tells her to, all while lying straight to his face?

Did you genuinely feel any love in Jenna's actions toward her husband? And what do you think about James changing his mind in the span of two seconds, completely influenced by Ray and his own fantasy?

Are you sure its me who read a different story ?
what story are you discussing about, (jenna, ray, james?)
 
Good afternoon. I am just new here, could someone kindly repost in pdf form chapter 23 and 24 of the bad tenant by eddie wilder.The story is good but more than that, it is the emotional and mental state of the three main characters regarding their relationships to each other that intrigues me. Again thank you very much in advance.
 
It is interesting to consider writing the kind of story you guys want. I would be down to give it a shot if you didn’t immediately post chapters of the contact (which you don’t like anyway) here the day after I release them on smashwords! Yeesh, i only have one paid chapter, the rest are free after a month!

That said, I would have to understand the actual structure of what you guys want better. If you want the husband to have a strong backbone, and the wife to not be a slut for the other man or enjoy him much at all, then there isn’t a lot of room for length and development, no?

Like is the premise that both the husband and wife do not want the wife to have sex with the other man, but some outside plot mechanic makes it so they have to? Then the husband saves her?

Or does the wife start cheating then the husband is angry so he divorces her? And we get a chapter on how good the husbands life becomes and how bad hers is?

Or does the husband want the wife to see another man and she is just reluctant the whole time? And the husband is in charge and manipulating both the wife and the other man?

Or is everyone just happy with all the boundaries and theres no conflict at all? The wife wants both her husband and the other man, the other man likes the wife but respects the couples boundaries, the husband is happy with the situation and in control. Seems like this gets boring pretty quick?
Sire_rickenbach, stories are truly great if you don't know where it's headed or even if you know where it's headed, there better be some gnarly bends in the road.

The four outlines or endings you laid are not very appealing to be honest. The best stories I've read always read like a heist, a pursuit of the incredibly beautiful women, against all odds to the MC. It usually starts with a wager, a contest, a ruse, a battle of wills, a deception that pulls the reader in and have you rooting for the MC or his antogonist, hoping that they will pull it off. If you branch out to incest (there are advantages to writing this genre) and not strictly stay in the typical cuckold which i think gets boring after the husband starts participating and being a doormat, then I would suggest you look at "congratulations" by The Exporter and "You couldn't handle me" by Thetalkman as inspiration. All of TheTalkMan's stories, is about the chase rewritten in different settings and it is very popular. The bet by rabbleraid for example is just another story about the chase. I think the fun of it is in the chase, not the destination. Having the husband/boyfriend be a victim is also essential because there has to be a loser and winner for stakes, and if the cheat gets nearly discovered by the husband, thats just naturally raising the stakes. Most of the story concludes with discovery however, which is satisfying. The near discovery is why the_shadow_rising is popular, the near discovery of the affair, "the Halloween party dress" is a classic in that trope.

Toxic Attraction at the core of it, is just Lester chasing after this beautiful woman through lies, deceit, manipulation. But it's boring now because the chase is already over, readers are just pretending it isn't. Most of the complaints about Don is really one thing, it's become boringly predictable, the wife is taken at this point and in different scenarios. I think if you are in the situation where you are just going through the paces to create another chapter, then its time to end it.

This is why I really like your story "The Contact", it's a story about this despicable character chasing after the wife through careful precise planning. Even if the husband wasn't participating, it would be still be hot, you would just need to add near discovery or nearly being caught after the wife starts cheating, having wilder and wilder scenarios and plausible deniability for the cheaters maybe after the wife promising that it's over between the two. There are nuances to the husband's reaction but once the wife starts confession her love, its time to end it.

I also think thats why theres a lot of potential for "The Hustle". There is a ruse, and seeing how this dude will trick the husband into possessing the wife is part of the chase and the thrill of it. I think there is a lot of potential there for the husband to not be a willing doormat/cuck again.

If you want to try your hand at writing a story where there is a chase, some teasing, before the climax, then raise the stakes further by having the husband almost catching them in the act because he's not a doormat participant, I think you'll be surprised at how creative you need to be to pull it off.
 
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