Xad
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good job!
love the outfit
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[Six Pack Site / Joe Six-Pack / Sick Puppy Press] Comics
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- feminization transformation
love the outfit
beccauppadecca
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I thought this one was so cute, right up until the end where it suddenly took an insane misogynist turn. I get that Lauren was going for a "Even if it turned out good in the long run, you should've respected my bodily autonomy" angle, which would've felt super woke for a SPP story. But I don't know why that had to come in the form of "And also the cis women got FAT and UGLY and NOBODY WOULD FUCK THEM and they were SO JEALOUS OF THE HOT YOUNG GIRL because they're OLD AND UNFUCKABLE and they have SHIT JOBS and their LIVES ARE MEANINGLESS because they're MISERABLE OLD SHREWS!" Like damn girl I know your dress sense is stuck in the fifties but does your attitude towards women have to be as well?
I mean look I know it's hardly fair to complain about that, when meanwhile Joe is writing some of the most insane race-swap stories I've ever seen. But that's Joe, the guy is freaky. If there was estrogen that makes you japanese he would've transitioned a long time ago.
Speaking of... I know Joe's brand is like "the manly tg site, for men who think this stuff is hot and definitely don't have gender dysphoria", but I've always wondered how true that actually is. How many of you are really cis guys?
EDIT: Just read Born Leaders, it was ass <3
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beccauppadecca
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I mean the psychology behind wanting to be forced into transitioning or sex isn't complicated. As trans women (or, sure, manly men with TG fetishes, if that's how you identify) we're made to feel ashamed of our desires, so the "safest" way to explore them is through fantasies about a protagonist being forced into them against their will. It's the same for cis girls, which is why so many smutty romance stories involve dominant, sexually aggressive men as the love interests. The reason people are into forced fem is the same reason Fifty Shades of Grey was popular.
I don't know the psychology behind race change stuff, I just know that the way Joe writes black people makes me really uncomfortable.
mihaluck
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I look at it simply without the context of hidden desires. Fetishes exist when there are inhibitions and stereotypes, so they are in stories like Joe's. I don't think they are only for transgender or cisgender men, like any other TG stories they can appeal to both, their fetishes overlap.
Nuvolari
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Fair point. I would also claim a possible secondary reason (it does not nullify the primary, but I would suggests plays a complementary role for some people like me) for people liking stories where the protagonist undergoes involuntary feminization:
It's the first part of a sort of hero's journey. The character is put into a difficult situation and has to deal with it. "Dealing" can take various forms depending on the kind of story you are telling. It can be revenge, or a path to self-acceptance, or to love, or all of it together. What I don't like very much is the perpetual victim role.
I usually don't enjoy stories in which the protagonist is the bad guy. I go more for the magic / sci-fi sort of stories, but I tend to skip over "bodyhopper" (which strikes me as an immature power fantasy) and "costume gun" stories (which are, well, pretty much fantasizing about murdering people and taking their place). I would rather read a story about the person who finds themself facing these kind of people and finding a way to deal with them. It's more interesting and demands more creativity from the author.
Redryder74
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As a trans woman who has read this kind of fiction for 20+ years, and spoken with many other trans women who loved these stories, it’s easy to understand the reason why we liked involuntary feminisation stories. Being trans is scary as fuck, and we face rejection for making the decision to transition. Being forcibly changed to a woman is fantasy and escape, because then it’s not out fault anymore.
I also used to love stories where the wife or girlfriend slowly feminises the man over time, and is a lesbian. It was my subconscious hoping that my wife would be the same and accept me as a woman.
I also used to love stories where the wife or girlfriend slowly feminises the man over time, and is a lesbian. It was my subconscious hoping that my wife would be the same and accept me as a woman.
Jadnostky
Cat with a Knife
Personal preference ma man, I like forced feminization, but femdom - isnt mine. Not really drawing a line, just a difference in taste.
Timberlake
Postop tranny❤️
Forced Feminization? Yes.
But Blackmail and Rape? Certainly not.
Same here femdom is not my thing as well.
Bilbo
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I was talking about people treating race/culture change in stories like some huge moral issue while they're fine with forced feminization, blackmail and rape in stories.
Obviously it's fine to like some things and not other things. The problem is that when some people here encounter something in a story they don't personally enjoy (like race change), instead of just reading something else they treat it like it's a big moral issue.
Jadnostky
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Xad
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Adding my bits to the discussion:
I enjoy involuntary feminization more then forced feminization.
Like recently I read the pink teddy bear. I don’t know if it’s joe that reads it but it was a interesting view on culture for me.
The story was really bad, for me. Femdom is not a kink I like and this together with becoming Samantha are the worst of joes stories.
Sure it might not be joe who wrote them but it’s released on their site.
Stories where the protag is forced against their wishes to become female and the “villain” in the story gets away with it, really puts a bad taste in my mouth.
Maybe that’s why the “blondie” series is joes most popular one, cause it has forced and involuntary feminization but the protag still have their free will to choose in the end.
Sure, the protag is kinda like the protag in ski bunny: a selfcentred prick, that think they can get inside the pants of any women and kinda look down on them.
Giving prideful characters their comeuppance is always fun to see them fall.
But punishing innocent people or protags have never sit right with me.
You need to have a catharsis for the protag, instead of keep of hitting them while they are down
I enjoy involuntary feminization more then forced feminization.
Like recently I read the pink teddy bear. I don’t know if it’s joe that reads it but it was a interesting view on culture for me.
The story was really bad, for me. Femdom is not a kink I like and this together with becoming Samantha are the worst of joes stories.
Sure it might not be joe who wrote them but it’s released on their site.
Stories where the protag is forced against their wishes to become female and the “villain” in the story gets away with it, really puts a bad taste in my mouth.
Maybe that’s why the “blondie” series is joes most popular one, cause it has forced and involuntary feminization but the protag still have their free will to choose in the end.
Sure, the protag is kinda like the protag in ski bunny: a selfcentred prick, that think they can get inside the pants of any women and kinda look down on them.
Giving prideful characters their comeuppance is always fun to see them fall.
But punishing innocent people or protags have never sit right with me.
You need to have a catharsis for the protag, instead of keep of hitting them while they are down
Bilbo
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That's funny, I always prefer stories where the protag is forced against their wishes to become female and the “villain” in the story gets away with it, and the first 2 Blondie books are maybe my favorite feminization stories of all time, together with Hand Me Downs.
I don't know how you can say you dislike forcedfem and also like the Blondie books. Whatever the ending is 99% of the content of the books is Carl being forced to be Candi, and I don't think you can argue that he deserves it.
The villains in the Blondie books get away with it too, and it's also heavily implied that in Carl will have to play the part of Candi again in the sequel.
I wonder when we will get a sequel to Lost Year, apparently it is still being worked on. It'll be interesting to see where the story goes.
KidtheKidd
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Out of left field, but besides Joe Six-Pack, anyone start here:http://tsa.transform.to/tg/index.html?
Redryder74
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Yes. I enjoyed all kinds of transformation stories. Not just TG. I read ASFR stories too.
Xad
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well, in blondes case, the main protag is a bit ot a slime and it feels justified of him getting feminized, cause hes usually a shitty person to begin with.
creating/becoming samantha is just the worst, since the old caretaker makes sam go through with FORCED SEX CHANGE, even when hes shouting and pleading with his father to help him.
then instead of the original goal of the book,. where dad wanted to get closer to his son, they gets pulled more apart then ever. the old woman leaves, satisfied with her "work" and gets left unpunished.
I do like forced fem, like in the russian girl, since the protag in that gets treated so badly, but with her wits and cunning in the end, she gets her own sort of happy ending. another story i like is trophy wife, following two protags, one who is more sympathetic and becomes the trophy wife, figures whats going on and owns it alter in the story, while the douchebag that becomes the daughter gets changed for the better, even if its against their will.
Sam didnt get any good ending at all. his life got destroyed along with his father life. the art is great but i just dislike the story.
and yes, i to am looking forward to a sequel to blondie. i know hes gonna be made to become candy again and its gonna be fun to see how that happens.
BriannatheMage
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I enjoy forced/involuntary feminization stories and will usually read the gamut from coerced to blackmailed and kidnapped but I prefer the lighter side to be honest. When it's written even half decently, the rationalizations that come from a coerced feminization are superior than a protagonist who has no other choice but to submit. I do enjoy when an author uses a more subtle approach to mix up a kidnapping or heavily forced feminization story. On it's face race change stories shouldn't be looked at much differently than forced fem but a lot of times the most basic transformations feel as grossly stereotypical as the worst feminization stories that flatten gender roles.
tgfr
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Try https://www.fictionmania.tv/searchdisplay/swidisplay.html and clic on SWI
Redryder74
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Novelchef has nice stories, there's a thread in this forum.
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